No more pointy ears for tsa - Page 8

We're they for detection in airports and the such . Or for police work in the streets

Streets in england and scotland

A yes that sounds right 👍

Duke, service dogs have been kicked off planes because of demand by those offended with having dogs in their presents.
All it takes is complaints of being offended, pointy ears is just the start.

The ones wanting open borders are the globalists....huge percentage in the government who have not even been elected and can't be fired. Mostly judges calling he shots for the rest of the country....

Ok some UK facts: Port / airport etc and mailrooms Search Dogs - looking for both contraband [tobacco, drugs/ weapons & explosives/money] and increasingly organic substances (people trying to import foodstuffs etc which could prove a risk to our environment / agriculture) are now mostly drop-eared breeds and mixes. They have to be around a huge mass of people, majority of whom are NOT bringing in things they haven't declared, and may have children with them, who - as Bladeedge points out, - why would you seek to frighten / antagonise them if you don't have to ? Please remember that eg airports are a far different place from the less populous places they once were (back in the day when nobody used to object to GSDs being used). Public order and safety HAVE to be considerations ( I bet actually this applies mostly everywhere, these days). ALSO, spaniels and other lighter-bodied dogs are preferred because they are so much more nimble and quicker, and can run around on top of piles of suitcases, parcels etc in a way that takes more time & effort with GSDs or other big dogs.
Selection process is separate from LE, most dogs are gifted in or selected from shelters. Purchasing down to Customs & Excise as I understand it, & they do not breed their own.

Police, on the other hand, including Transport Police which is separate from the other, Regional forces including the Met: increasing numbers of the Handlers now work a team of two dogs, one general purpose GSD, and one 'floppy eared' lighter bodied Spaniel or Labrador, or mixes of these breeds. Most though not all of the GP (street) GS dogs are bred by the Police themselves; probably most of the search breeds are obtained still by other methods (like the port dogs). Adopting rescues is working out very well, and as there are plenty to choose from, why produce your own by breeding ? Same thing applies, the searching of suspects' homes for drugs or weapons etc is facilitated by these fast, light on their feet, breeds; and noone has to deal with the OTT upset caused to children being ridiculously frightened. Maybe today's kids are less stoic than earlier generations, may be that has got something wrong with it, but the officers are having to deal with the real world as it is now, not how someone with a more old-fashioned approach to child rearing would LIKE it still to be... And a public generally more inclined to protest if their rights are eroded.

I have this evening been listening to a Police Dog Handler extolling the virtues of her Sprocker spaniel search dog; these do not have too little commitment and enthusiasm as far as Police (who also have GSDs, so are qualified to make comparisons) are concerned, far from it. They make their work a good deal less arduous. And they 'don't frighten the horses'.

The dogs the Police kennels buy in from the likes of Duke or Gustav are usually males which are to be used as studs, to prevent the Police services own British bred stud animals being over-used and keep the gene pool wide. Some are also used on the streets; some are not. Either way it makes sense to buy specialist, trained or part trained and proven dogs to continue successful police-work suitable lines to reproduce from.

The Transport Police and other Forces provide back-up to ports staff, so as I mention in an earlier post there are big bad prick eared dogs waiting in the wings for anyone coming into the UK who needs that much controlling because they will not co-opporate with port staff or Police. Again, without causing too many public order disturbances. All seems pretty sensible, to most of us over here ! And I do not think in most peoples' minds it detracts from the GSD's reputation as the good reliable trainable all-rounder.

I provided both males and females, dogs are certified and put on the street, GSD,mali and crosses, think, like in most countries were I send dogs to that different buyers have different programs and/or routines

Allan1955: Mr Prager:

Please explain to this misguided PC crowd in your infinite wisdom why cropping ears was done for health reasons.

Prager: I have done so. Please read the post you oppose, before you get your panties in the wad.

Duke: No need to huff; I didn't say 'no' females, I said 'usually' males; GSD import records show a ratio of at least 3 dogs to 1 bitch, bought in by Police Dog Sections, often more than that. [ I don't check on the occasional records re: Malis etc / 'other breeds'.] But yes, its noticeable these days that there are more females 'on the beat' than there used to be, a lot of handlers here having got over the myth that only male dogs can work the streets ! Also yes, different strokes for different folks; I was quite clearly only talking about the UK. As for reading it as 'all' imported dogs getting certified to work, once here - well, what you are told when they are selected may not always be what happens once they are over here.There are dogs - NOT SAYING THESE WERE PURCHASED FROM YOU - which haven't made that grade, or have been kept non-operational for other reasons. It happens. Not always a bad thing, not always statistically significant in the grander scheme of things, not always money wasted either.

Hundmutter, no need for anything, every country has its rules and they all break them,

can tell you storys of various of my clients not going by what is generally "the rule "

dont think thats important so much, if they need dogs, they need dogs, I know for fact my dogs are on the street and where

back to topic, TSA wants no more pointy ears, will see how long that lasts, as they cant send out their officers without dogs in the long run, I know of ocasions where they were testing around 30 huntingdogs, bringing home 3, will see how long it lasts