If you had a Magic Wand.... - Page 8

I do think its cute that on a thread asking about magical perfect dogs folks take the opportunity to post their own pooches...cute.

"Testing while it helps, doesn't eliminate the problems." = Why test if it won't solve the problem anyways? Just go with the status quo, make my living, and don't ruffle too many feathers. It's what 99% of breeders in this country do. People with Schutzhund titled dogs produce crap after spending thousands to train and title, people without Schutzhund titled dogs produce crap without spending thousands. Why not save the thousands and just do the second option...could probably still get almost $2000 for the puppy anyways. That sucker titling their dogs will get like $2500, and even then I might be able to convince some of their buyers that my dogs are just as good because this one time I saw a club level IPO dog that was complete garbage so that national level or world level dog must be the same quality as that club level dog I saw. I'll have them come to my house, meet my dog, have the only helper they've ever seen put a sleeve on and show that unknowing buyer how my dog can bark and bite just as well as that top level dog. It's not like they can tell the difference anyways.

That is one asinine leap. Nucking futs. You know better than that. CONTEXT. READ the CONTEXT and see what problems I was speaking to. If you recall, you were talking about the problem of everyone seeing their own dogs as correct. How does trialing eliminate that? I loooove how you took the context straight out of my quote to use it to support your bizarre assertion.

Sometimes you make a lot of sense and other times you seem like a relative novice with a big chip on your shoulder- like you know just enough to get yourself in trouble.

Yogi, he won't post his dogs. He says he lives sort of in my area, and I asked who he was or where he trained in case someone needed a trainer and he wouldn't tell me who he was. As stated, he/she often does make a lot of sense, which is why I asked, but it's hard to be too swayed to another's way of thinking when you have absolutely nothing to go on in terms of examples. How do we even know what he/she considers ideal?

The context is that SOMEONE ELSE CAN SEE YOUR DOG. A judge. But then we dismiss the judge for not knowing anything. Or at least throw your dog out in front of some people that might remember the dog and have an opinion. Stop getting angry, I'm not calling you out. I understand your line of thinking. It's the status quo of this whole country. It's been discussed before...until your dog is out there in front of others, it's got the potential to do anything. Never been to an IPO club? Might still be a world level dog in drive level. Once it gets to the club...you'll probably figure out that it's not as amazing as you believed.

Each of our "perfect dogs" is perfect until we get out the door and interact with other people and other dogs. Why risk finding out that what you've believed is the end all be all is really just mediocre...

Getting out there...even if you want to be blind to what you own, there's at least a chance that you learn something and maybe change your own thinking. But as long as all you do is sit at home, there is no chance of changing anything.

BW show your dog show us what we are missing . You seem to know it all .

Erm ... you cannot ASSume, BW, that dogs referred to here that do not compete in your particular circles never go anywhere /nor are tested by any circumstances other than their home environment. Does not compute. Therefore you should not draw those generalised conclusions.

Vk, pictures are better than bs arguing.

Let's face it;  the perfect dog for one person could be a piece of shit for the next and vice versa... Lucky is the 'pooch' ( I hate that label) who is seen as 'perfect' by it's owner.. The dogs who suffer are the ones owned by the a-hole perfectionist who is never happy with any dog they own.
Jmo
 

Mithuna is speaking from inexperience -
yes Jenni, he is; but that makes him dangerous, especially when he states things as though they are facts rather than his own (undereducated, dogwise) opinion. Also true of some others around here.

here is a competition both dog and handler cannot train for,, as it is dfferent every time, worth more to me

https://youtu.be/UTSzZB1wCSU

How different can it be from time to time? Everything is trainable...

But yeah, a good enough dog, a good enough bite work foundation, and the dog can handle what's in that video. You'd eliminate a lot of the dogs that do end up getting through IPO titles with such a test...you'd also have just as many people complaining that it's too hard and doesn't prove anything anyways because it's only bite work and there is no obedience or tracking involved or herding or whatever it is that they enjoy doing with their dog and want to make their venue the breed test (in America it's quickly becoming dock diving and lure coursing).

I did post a dog I liked, not sure why I need to post my own dog. Many of you didn’t get the observation I was making, vk was really the only one…that in a thread about “how to make the perfect dog?” Basically everyone claimed they already had it. It’s not a big deal if you think you do, but the best part of that is that the dogs are so different from one another. So between the handful of people here, we can’t come to any agreement, how do we expect thousands across the world to come to one? I wasn’t calling anyone out for their preferences, it was just an interesting observation.

 

It's the age old statement as old as dog shows themselves...that champion dog is a POS, the dog I own is way better. Let me tell you how...