Inferior Quality VonWilhendorf Dog - Page 8

I think the message that Hexe & Jenni are "trying" to make is:
Being cow hocked is just another "fault" that is indeed within the genetics of this breed.
It does not stem just from "extreme" or over angulation...because some of the WL's can exhibit the problem also. There are also variations of the condition.
NO...it is not something a breeder "strives" for, or intentionally breeds for.....but it does happen.
Even the best possible, careful breedings can and do birth problems or faults....just a plain fact.
The message that (I believe) is......this young dog, deserves a loving, caring home...as do all dogs. Being cow hocked does not mean she is "crippled"....nor is it a reason to be cast away like yesterday's garbage.
No one person that has posted, has said it is "correct"...only that it can get better in time with proper care & physical conditioning....and not most definitely will.

I dont have much experience in all this, but it does sound rather strange that the dog doesnt have a microchip, and how the dog wasnt let out of her kennel at the airport and was left in there overnight!! Poor girl!!! I totally agree with Hexe in a much earlier post, the buyer should have asked for videos. If you're buying a dog for several thousand bucks, the least the breeder can do is send videos at your request. I recently bought a Remo daughter from Europe, and I asked for videos of her. He didnt have any of her prey drive but he willingly took one for me and sent it. This is just my opinion. The breeder shouldnt have sold a dog like this but the buyer shouldve done his homework!

She does have a chip number as indicated on her show entry. The buyer had another dog from the same breeder. No one is going to know what went on between the two. The bottom line is the buyer is not happy and does not want the dog, she wants her $ refunded.

Has anyone emailed John? I can't imagine someone has not.

No one can be too careful taking her in.  Maybe I just try to be, but going to parks (not dog parks) etc doesn't compare to a bitch coming from a multi breed breeding kennel with an owner who doesn't seem to give a crap about a life. Brucellosis is a concern, bred or not along with whatever else she may have come in contact with.

I don't think anyone will get her as I said before, this is her so called evidence.

Poor girl stuck in the middle.

Here in Ct. there are many not so great stories abouth this kennel in dog circles regardless of his big rep in the dog world.  This summer his female had a litter of Remo pups.  I called John to buy a male and reserve it and was told that would be $4K- okay I said and he sends me a contract.
The contract gteed hips for 15 months and no health gtees at all with a law firm stipulated for arbitration of disputes. I called him and indicated that I thought for that much of a premium for a pup there should be a better gtee and his response was basically do your business somewhere else.
NICE!!!

Brucellosis would threaten her paycheck. Doubtful she'd take such a chance. Someone bitching about cowhocks is, imo, unlikely to be so lackadaisical about disease because disease threatens her wallet, which is where the concern is. I bet her animals are vaccinated more than mine...I'm almost sure of it. Not that vaccines prevent a lot of possible bugs, but my point is that just because someone has no heart, it doesn't mean that their animals present a physical threat from disease. She sells a lot of animals and has a therapeutic riding program. She may even have to be inspected by the state. 

I disagree about the dog being "evidence"; in order to prove any damages, a loss has to have occurred in most cases. Unless she sells the dog for significantly less than she paid for her, how can she say she's suffered any loss at all?

Ok Jenni, you just can't wait to disagree with me. How do you know she even knows what brucella is?? I wonder how many of her dogs are tested for it? We can both assume but no one knows. Why risk it?    Yes a loss has to be proved but who is going to pay over $3000 for this girl? She never even said she x-rayed her hips. It was her concern but it doesn't  seem like she forked out the money other than a vet visit. She is not trying to sell her, she wants her $ back from the breeder. You said you'd take her and give her whatever money you got, what could that be for a pet home? She's not letting go of the dog that easily.

Cowhocked dogs have completed the Iditarod.

This dog more than likely cost in the $3000 range as John's dogs are not cheap and has a major issue.This dog should have been offered as pet quality with full disclosure of her issues. A nominal adoption fee would have been a fair deal so She could have a loving pet home.Never expect John to make good on this problem, it is not his way ,believe me.The mark of a good,honest breeder is how they handle a problem like this. There is still time to salvage his reputation.

As is often the case,  this post is laced with lies.    What can be seen from the youtube tape is outright abuse.   I'd like to see the author stand on hot summer blacktop with bare feet as this poor female is.   She is continuously dragged onto the blacktop against her will as her feet burn.   She even tries to lie down to avoid the heat.   Some people should not have animals.   I can't get into the other facts of the matter but suffice it to say...BS.    A replacement was offered on numerous occasions,  as we always strive for satisfaction.   But after seeing how she treats her animals...no way.   JOHN 
 

So good to hear From you on this matter.We all hope the dog will be treated well and this can be put to rest