Top Showlines with good protection phase - Page 8

I'm good at looking things up! LOL If you still need another volunteer......?

You can count me in - but I'm only here during the week (using work broadband)

AandA

I've got 10. Here we go.............

What we're going to do is a short version of what I've been doing since 2003 when my working female didn't pass the protection routine in Bakersfield. If anyone remembers Bakersfield, those dogs were tested.

I considered it a sign of what was to be the direction of the breed. Since then I have accumulated some knowledge about the personality, temperament and nerve of a dog. VKGSD put it very nicely that it takes getting to know a dog to see really what a dog is about. I have people like Armin Winkler, Ron Harris, Steve House, Lora Nix, Dan Heldreth, Kristinia Senter, (to name a few) and many others along the way to thank, They gave me insight about the inner workings of the mind of the German Shepherd.

Since 2003 I've been to many events, many kennels, many training groups and I always look to see what dogs are there and how they perform. When I see an exceptional dog, I ask who the parents are and look them up. Over the years my research lead me to the dogs I believe contribute their work ethic to a very high percentage of their offspring.

What we will be doing here is expanding what I've done and with the help of PDB and all those involved, continue the research and draw some conclusions.

Here's what we will do first. Develop a list of conformation line dogs that possess working ability equal to a good working line dog. The list will include dogs that have accomplished a SchH3 at a National event. The nominations have to have a proven performance. I love my dog, he's the greatest, but he's not going to be on the list because I've not taken him to his potential. If my dog's not on the list, neither is your's or your puppy's daddy.

When you nominate a dog, please list it's accomplishment.

A special invitation for the working line people. If you have competed at the National level and have seen a showline dog that you feel is worthy, you get to nominate the dog.

Let's start!

I'll begin the list with two dogs that have been mentioned here:

1. Triumph's Gucci

Pam Am Universal Sieger when he was around 9 years old. I talked to the judge that judged him that day and he was amazed that a dog of that age was in such excellent condition. He has a history of work and the accomplishment behind him to be included on the list.

2. Xasko von der Roten Matter

Multiple BSP participant, no need to add anything more.


Everyone can participate. If you think you have a dog that qualifies, please suggest it. We'll take a look at it. Volunteers start your search!

Thank You Dog 1.  A little known fact about Gucci,  He went from Scratch to Sch 1 in 3 weeks at 14 mons in Sweden.  with the help of Bo Nyman's Club,  If I had recorded all Bosse' taught me the last 2 remaining years of his life,  I would have much more to contribute..It was not so much that Gucci could work,  He loved to work, had a 9 foot sride and very hard to keep up with.  Was such an honor to be his owner..Lida
I forgot to add that he was on the world working team 2 times..in Sweden at 3 and 4  years of age.

I'll throw out a nomination. V Jasper vom kleinen Teich SchH3 IPO3 FH2. Breeder HOT by a member of my club. 2008 New England regional champion, multiple times competitor at national events including the 2007 and 2009 USA Nationals.

Bazi Urbecke- I believe 2x German Universal Sieger?


Jaguar Mausespitz? I know he never competed in the BSP or anything but ask anyone who ever knew or him, or hell, saw him and the first thing out of everyon'e mouth is "that dog could WORK".

Ork Werther Muhle (If you've seen him bite you know what I mean!)

What about Mary's dog or Ravi's Juneau? I'm afraid I can only base my experience off what I have seen here in the US. I've never had the pleasure of visiting Germany as many here have. I'd love to see some input from Chris.


I'm interested in the technique for this since I know a few PPD and police K9 that would not qualify for this list due to lack of titles and recognized accomplishments but they have drive and grips that any WL lover would respect.

edit: Nexx Hartis Bohemia!
and another: Ory Zollernblut, 2x USA Universal Sieger

We have Jasper and Bazi.

I see what you're looking for now, Randy. Proof over opinion. :)  How recent do the dogs need to be?

Jeck Bildeiche, 2000 BSP competitor. Placed respectably.

Is there anywhere online where I can view WUSV competitors over the last 10-15 years?

Yes, Proven performance over youtube 30 second video.

I'll take Jeck Bildeiche, trained by Dagmar. He placed in front of Dr. Reiser's working male at the BSP. Not bad for a show dog, he's on the list too.

Let's not go back too far. We need the genetices to be new enough to be useful in todays breeding programs.

My showline dog works great.  He has more drive for the ball, food and for the decoy than many working line dogs.  He's always "on" and always ready to work.  Extremely agile, quick.  He likes to bite and looks the helper in the eye.  He takes pressure and grips very hard.  His nerves are absolutely solid.  He would not be "one of those" showlines who slip their grip at the stick  hits or who would not engage a helper coming at him with threat.  We just earned our Schh2 title and he's getting ready for the 3.  HOT of course.  and He's very handsome too :)

 Aeros v Heulenluft Schh2,KKl-1