animal cruelty ? - Page 8

olskoolgsds, no worries, all is well.  Thank you for clearing that up.  You & I agree on a lot, which is that there are many people with the knowledge and skills to do quite a bit, and they do, and they should. 

Animal control and humane societies are today over-run with people who know NOTHING about animals, which is so dangerous.  Sadly, it's because those of us who do have the knowledge are too busy with our own animals to be working with the humane societies and so this has happened.

[where are we going and why are we in this handbasket...??]

The best example of just how far the idiots are taking this, is the one where they do not want the dogs to heard the sheep anymore on the way to the market, it makes them upset. I find that so flippen funny.

Do they make the dogs wear ear plugs? 

The subject of the thread:  Is it animal cruelty for a person to perform surgery on their dog (not meaning to apply First Aid to a minor scrape/cut).    My opinion is YES.

I thank God the people who protect animal rights.  We are their voice.    I would guess since they are only Dogs... there might even be some people on the board that think Dog fighting is o.k.  I mean they are only dogs. so why not encourgage them to fight and kill each other and when they don't make use money we can just kill them..  I mean they are only dogs so what is the loss right?   If some dogs don't do what we want them to do, then we can starve them and let them know who's the boss.   I think it has become a real sad thing when people don't want dogs simply for the loving creatures that they are and just have them for the pups they can have and how much money they can make us.  They deserve better than that.  Dogs are so loyal and want to please and all they really ask for in return is a warm place to sleep, attention and food.   If you can't provide that, then you are not an amial lover at all.   Little pups don't belong in freezing weather they don't  have the thick coat actually they are pretty hairless when they are first born.   Their little systems can't handle it.  Your farmers,  country folk can think like you want... This is not little house on the parier days.  There is no excuse for do it yourself at home shit anymore.   Dogs are not just dogs they are supposed to be part of the family.   I for one will continue to treat my dog like she is cherrished, loved, and wanted.  Because she is.    I did not breed her, because that was not my sole purpose in getting a GSD.  I got a GSD for the love of the breed.    They may have a higher tolerance for pain, but they still feel pain.   They get most of the same illnesses that we do, so what does that tell you?      As far a Petra, I can't speak of because I don't know about them, however I am glad for ASPCA and their fight for animal cruley and they never ending fight for putting these people behind bars.    I have a neighbor that has 2 dogs and they are outside all the time, they are very little to no human contact.  They get food and water, water being that they fill up a little pool.. I have seen the water and it has green algee in it.   There is no dog house, it it rains really hard they just go under the porch.   When the few time that they are allowed in the house they go straight to a crate.  What kind of life is that for a dog.   Never be petted or if they are it is just a little pat on the head.  It is a very sad thing to see.   But,  I guess some people on the board see nothing wrong with this.  I think it is cruel and unnecessary.    My dog will always have a lap to lay her head in.  

Dodie said "there might be some people on the Board...."   - she did NOTsay that "there are people on the Board....."

Big difference.   Dodie's opinion was not offensive....she is entitled to have her say on here without being accused of making false characterizations.

Wow Moons talk about animal cruelty-Take a look in your own backyard.

The more a dog is outdoors, the less behavioral control you have. It's easier to solve four or five indoor problems than one outdoor problem. The reason is valid and simple: The more you control the stimuli that reaches your dog, the more you control the responses. When your dog is bored, but teased by every dog, cat, bird, squirrel, motorcycle, paperboy, airplane, firecracker and backfiring truck in the county, OF COURSE he'll dig, chew, and bark. Would you sit still all day everyday? When a dog is alone indoors, you are still 30% there because your scent and things he associates with you, constantly remind the dog of you and your training. When he's out, your dog is alone whether you're home or not.

Another problem with outdoor dogs is that of dog theft which is a common problem. Here in the metroplex, dog theft seems to rise dramatically the week before a large near by flea market which also has dogs for sale. Dogs are also stolen to sell to research labs or to sell to puppy mills. Dog thieves are very good at what they do. Do not assume that your barking dog will be safe. ANY dog outside unattended, no matter how brief the time is an accident waiting for a place to happen.

Here in Texas, the miserably hot summers are killers for dogs outside. Maybe our winters are milder than some climates but we have plenty of unpleasant days that I wouldn't want to be outside in. Would you? Don't think a dog house offers protection. Those dog houses which advertise cool in summer and warm in winter? Try getting in one for a few minutes in the summer time and we think you'll agree it's not very cool!

An outdoor dog has an address, not a home. Dogs offer real value as companion animals. Stop behavior problems and start enjoying real protection and companionship. Bring your dogs inside.

I will admit that my (RARE) litters are born inside partly for convenience, but mostly so that they will have as much handling as possible. I want to interact with them many times a day, even from birth. I COULD put them out in the kennel, which is after all only 4 feet from my back door, and I probably will when they are 5 weeks old and making too much noise to bear LOL, but I would hate to lose all that early imprinting on human voices and hands, radios, pots and pans, etc etc. So...I don't think it's cruel to raise them outdoors...I just don't think it's the best way to really learn about each puppy's behaviors and personality, nor to get them socially foolproof.