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by Bob McKown on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
Oh Videx!!!
Again your mouth runith over but you dodge the question... Nothing can be improved until the consistent judging to the standard is upheld!!! That would fix any problem Why won,t the SV uphold it,s own standard?. I wait to hear your words of wisdom rain down upon me like storm to the parched land.
by Held on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
by Bob McKown on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
Oh Videx!!!
I,m just a little guy nobody,s heard of me.
vomdrachenhaus.com
look all you want.
by Bancroft on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
by Gustav on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
As long as there is not an abundance of current showline structured dogs that perform at a high working level, why should working people strive to achieve this type of structure. There are an abundance of workingline dogs with V conformation....we all know the politics of SV judges prohibits these dogs from becoming VA (wrong color, etc), but you can't name a good 10 showline dogs with current showline structure that's winning today, that work at a national level. And working is less suceptible to politics as its plain for everybody to see the performance of the animal. The current showline structure cannot be rewarded until(used as criteria for people breeding for performance dogs), we see a significant amount of showline dogs that can perform at the national level. This isn't hearsay, meaness, or negative towards the showlines, its just the plain truth. Some of us get quiet when presented with FACTS and revert to armchair rhetoric instead of discussing the facts.......! I like the idea but only if the conformation standard used is PROVEN to produce top working dogs.....I seek specifics on why this is not acceptable???????Think about it, if the conformation standard used doesn't produce top working dogs HOW can it be the correct standard interpretation for a WORKING dog..Food for thought!
by Bancroft on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
by 4pack on 22 January 2009 - 21:01
by snajper69 on 22 January 2009 - 22:01
Gustav is always right on. Clear, real and straight to the point. As always your responds are always pleasure to read.
by Linern on 22 January 2009 - 23:01
The owners of such dogs choose which discipline they prefer to follow.
I'm sure there are some who have the yearning , the means, the time and the man power to excell in both but not many !. So each to their own .
There is of course the working people who do not Koerung their dogs or X-ray and have no intentions of ever doing so ......... they are usually the ones that only seem to be interested in producing dogs that are over the top and ready to mince anyone up at the drop of a hat !. O.k. if they are needed for a specific job of work but many are not and many are of very unstable characters and sold into family homes !.
There is no need for extremities on either side.
Maybe all the objectors to the breeding of a universal type of German Shepherd own much inferior dogs themselves on both sides ?.
On a lighter note , its nice to see a few people on here that do not hide behind anonymous names .......... take a look at the website of ' Deeswolf ' , I don't know the people but the show bred dogs on there look as if they can work well enough and their combination lines too.
Lynn.C.
by VonIsengard on 22 January 2009 - 23:01
If I can figure out how to create a forum that won't cost me money, I'd love to create one for like minded people who want to own/train/breed correct dogs who can work (of any bloodline) so we can all learn from one another. No casuals, dramamongers, or extremists allowed, by invitation only. Perhaps there is one I don't know about?
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