Got yourself an aloof GSD? Its your own fault - Page 8

 msbeeb

                 African Safari!!! there is more to you then a saintly gsd lover, The closest thing I,ve ever come to a safari was makeing out with a girl named Lola while a old tarzan rerun was on the t.v. ,but then again you would need to meet Lola.

I,d love to see some Pics of Africa I,d love to go there some time. 

meow...

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The best holiday Bob.  It was wonderful... I admit my visit to the Masai village scared me more than any wild animal could lol.

I'll get the photo thing sorted soon.

Two Moons... Bean stew for you... on a tin plate!

meow.

I'm a little late to this thread, but I have to say I love the way it's morphed - aloof dogs to thong things to hair glitter to African safaris! Only on PDB!!!!

AnjaBlue, LOL it may have been morph or bust!

PDB..... making something out of nothing and still going strong..lol

Missbeeb, You said to me,  "At least you acknowledge the work they do in other areas"...is that's not condenscending????(smile)...Its okay! Your question to me was "Why do people breed dogs that are ugly"...then you answered the question"because they can, or they neither know or care what the breed should look like", Well I submit to you that the primary reason that people breed ugly dogs are because they have strong,productive, funcrional working, traits that they want to preserve in a WORKING breed. Make any sense...I'm surprised that you didn't include that in your answer to me. It never ceases to amaze me how your answers always evade the connection of German shepherd breeding should be working dog breeding. Now I want to ask you a question, but I won't answer it, out of respect for you superior knowledge in this area...Why do people breed dogs that are structurally correct that are "ugly " in working areas? (Don't insult my intelligence about training because we know many of these dogs don't have the nerve to do what the standard says they should do) And in the explanation show me how this ensures the breed remains a working dog.(Which should be the ultimate aim of all  German Shepherding breeding). I don't get into the personal exchanges that some do on this board, but I've been in the breed long enough to know correct working dog structure and temperament. Finally, In your condescending post about "At least I acknowledge work in other areas", please enlighten me of the other areas of the German Shepherd that I must be in the dark about?  Thanking you in advance!

"I'm curious as to why any breeder would place such a dog in the hands of a novice handler and\or into pet homes. The breeder should know what type of dogs they are producing and then some chap comes to them and ask for the biggest, baddest dog available shouldn't it be the breeders responsablity to be placing the appropriate dog to the right client? Are they too blinded by the clients checkbook to know any better?"

Quite possibly the buyer was full of shit and said he wanted and could handle a hard dog, "I have 2 more at home." Then come back 6-12 moths with his tail ticked, returning the pup to the breeder or just being as ass and dropping it in the pound when he can't "handle" it. Could be that allot of breeders don't even know what they have or will get when they breed. That is why I deal wuth who I deal with. I get what I ask for. More breeders should probably pick the pups for buyers, and those that don't, probably CAN'T, so again, why are they breeding? It's s human problem not a "breeder problem.

"Seems pretty clear to me, that you're the one puting yourself above the SV... YOU need to see him work?  Now that is arrogance, albeit sadly misplaced."

Please God! Tell me you are joking? Do you buy dogs/pups witgout seeing the parents work? Oh wait...you don't really "work" your dogs so you don't actually care what the parents can do, just what they look like and if they have an A stamp.

"You can try to justify it all you want, you are still putting nothing but mediocre crap pets out in the world when you breed your unproven pet stock.  Miss Beeb you have admitted you don't know anything about schutzhund or any other grip sports, yet you continually remark about these things you have no knowledge of.  Instead of wasting so much time spouting off, either talk about your pets or start learning about trials and training, but please no more inane, dumb comments.  When you kept repeating yourself about how some dog was a schH II and therefore breed worthy, how the hell would YOU know?  Oh I forgot you thought he was a real pretty dog."

Amen to that, my thoughts exactly. How can you tell us grip work is not important when you don't even do it and sound as if you never have? If you have, you would know how much character or lack there of, it brings to the surface.

"Re-read the posts... YOU need to see a dog work before it's  what?  Acceptable / passable and you expect to be taken seriously?  The SV will be calling on your expertise sometime soon then?"

Let's make this clear...so you ARE saying if a dog has a Sch2, you just call that good and will breed to it without seeing it work yoyrself? Your not worried he barely squeeked by or that he attended a midnight trial and had his title bought? What's on paper is all there is to it