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by VomMarischal on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
See, knowing the answer to that would help a lot of people out. We don't want to accept 4 Rotties to our club if they are just going to be ineligible in a few months. Of course, nobody has ever clarified when the bylaw change goes into effect, so should we assume it means NOW? There are several clubs in my area trying to figure out what the heck to do.
I'm not trying to stir any trouble here, but really there's a lot to think about.
I'm not trying to stir any trouble here, but really there's a lot to think about.
by Bob McKown on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
Your right Vom Marischal it.s ridicouls that people are put in this position in the first place. With the DVG you can still compete in DVG and AWDF trials.
by VomMarischal on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
My club secretary is on the horn to UScA right now trying to get some stuff straight. I just can't stand all this iffy-ness. I don't even know right now if I'm a member of my own club but I suspect not.
The DVG people I have talked to seem really fun. I'd really like to get back to having fun with my dogs. Pretty simple, really.
The DVG people I have talked to seem really fun. I'd really like to get back to having fun with my dogs. Pretty simple, really.
by Bob McKown on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
The only thing that puzzles me is this should not effect any ones training of there dogs your training should not be effected.
Clubs can work there way around this as they have in the past. as far as members switching to WDA and leaving USA if the whole club switches no problem if some members do and some don,t and that creates a problem well the club wasnt that tight in the first place. No political agenda will effect the training of my dogs and it should not yours either.
Clubs can work there way around this as they have in the past. as far as members switching to WDA and leaving USA if the whole club switches no problem if some members do and some don,t and that creates a problem well the club wasnt that tight in the first place. No political agenda will effect the training of my dogs and it should not yours either.
by Keith Grossman on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
I understand what you're saying, Sue, and have seen a lot of rationalizing going on on both sides of the fence. Ultimately, it doesn't come down to any sort of principled or philosophical decision for me but what makes sense for my individual situation and I haven't yet made that decision. I was hopeful several years ago when the WDS discussions started that it would ultimately lead to better cooperation but it has actually gotten worse. It is truly unfortunate that it has come to this.
by VomMarischal on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
Also, there's a guy in our club (our TD) who once went to the Rottie nationals with his dog. Would the new Rottie people in our club be precluded from belonging to any Rottie Sch organizations?
I dunno. Seems like a real kettle of fish here.
The club secty didn't get any answers because they're out of the office, but someone told her that other breeds CAN join USA.
Bob, my training won't be affected, but I'll be paying guest rates instead of member fees. Interestingly, the extra money will be going to the CLUB and not UScA, which I guess means UScA cut off their nose to spite their face.
I dunno. Seems like a real kettle of fish here.
The club secty didn't get any answers because they're out of the office, but someone told her that other breeds CAN join USA.
Bob, my training won't be affected, but I'll be paying guest rates instead of member fees. Interestingly, the extra money will be going to the CLUB and not UScA, which I guess means UScA cut off their nose to spite their face.
by sueincc on 07 December 2009 - 19:12
Yeah, no doubt this is definitely a messy kettle of fish.
by TessJ10 on 07 December 2009 - 20:12
"Will you also be resigning your SV membership in protest since you do not want to belong to an organization that tells you what other organizations you cannot belong to?"
The SV is a German organization, not an American organization. People aren't surprised that a German organization is dictatorial; Americans do object to an American organization bringing in German methods to an American organization.
The SV is a German organization, not an American organization. People aren't surprised that a German organization is dictatorial; Americans do object to an American organization bringing in German methods to an American organization.
by Bob McKown on 07 December 2009 - 20:12
Tess:
But it,s still a valid and intresting question. Since in the end it is all about the dog and not the politics, am I mistaken?
But it,s still a valid and intresting question. Since in the end it is all about the dog and not the politics, am I mistaken?
by Keith Grossman on 07 December 2009 - 20:12
"Americans do object to an American organization bringing in German methods to an American organization."
This has nothing to do with the present conversation but wasn't the UScA originally formed precisely to bring in German methods for proving, trialing, breed surveying and documenting our dogs?
Rhetorical questions aside, it is a misnomer to suggest that the situation between the SV and RS2000 is a "German method."
This has nothing to do with the present conversation but wasn't the UScA originally formed precisely to bring in German methods for proving, trialing, breed surveying and documenting our dogs?
Rhetorical questions aside, it is a misnomer to suggest that the situation between the SV and RS2000 is a "German method."
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