Dishonest site: www.gsddata.com - Page 7

If my lawyer is promising me the moon and it turns out not to be so; I am not out anything.

$60 to file, pay the lawyer and a day wasted.  Court fees are between $100-$250

Big deal!

Well worth it to me.

The pictures are the big deal with me as I said my daughter is in one of the pictures!

My pictures are being used to make money and I have never recieved one cent for that.   It is illegal and I am not interested in my cut; I want them removed as they were never posted there to start with by me the owner!

My girl is on there also. and while I have posted pictures of her on this site, and on another GSD board, I really don't like the fact that somebody took it upon themselves to post her picture. It would have nice if I was asked first. I have never heard of that website till now so I KNOW I DIDN'T post her picture.

And maybe I am blind but I am not seeing anywhere to contact them to have her removed from there.

Oli, go after them, man. The web-enabled harvesting of online databases is nothing new and has been done to other types of informative websites, and always for the financial gain of the harvester. That is where it crosses the line of ethics. I remember that particular website when I saw it quite some time ago, and thought to myself that much of the data there came from this pedigree database as well as the files of the S.V., et al. The S.V. files are not public, but all one has to do is buy the S.V. Genetics CD-ROM as well as others thay offer and parse the data contained there.

We engineers often share and swap files to each make our lives a bit easier and to maintain some camaderie in our profession. For example, one can go to my website and find a lot of CADD files that are available for download. They are there to share with the engineering community as I need to do my part when it comes to shared information. Those files (and hundreds more that are not there) are solely my creation.

If another engineer or engineering student downloads one of the files and uses the information to assist him with part of a design problem; then that is the intent of me making the files available. If he makes money from his final design (direct sale or continued employment) then that also is fine. But, if an individual or entity decides to download my files (or another engineer's files) and offer them for sale, then a serious line is crossed. Can I prove they are mine? Yes I can as they each have a digital signature. And of course that digital signature can be changed if someone wants to go to that much trouble.

It reminds me of drafting a research paper from many sources of information and using that information in its original form. That is an acceptable practice, provided that permission to use the information was granted and due credit to the source(s) is published. It is really just a matter of ethics combined with the interpretation and vagaries of the applicable law.

Copyright can be a sticky subject when applied to the content of websites due to the easy access across national and international boundaries where differing legal statutes apply. It is certainly best to not "borrow" someone else's work and then attempt to use it for your own gain/notoriety unless one is prepared for a lot of legal drama and expense. Can one prove they had a legal "right" to harvest data and use it for their own gain? I guess they could if they can get the members of an applicable court of law on their side. But, there exists the challenge for defense of one's actions.

Oli, many of us know that your website was the first of its kind to offer the type of information contained. I do remember when it was titled "Gunnarsholt's Kennel" at an address of Schaefer.is and there was nothing else out there in cyber land that resembled it. It is still the website of reference for so many people, practically the accepted "Bible" of information for the GSD world. Again, I wish you the best in your pursuit of these "people" (I have other words for them-but it is best to not use them!) and hope that you can close their website unless they agree to compensate you.

Best Regards, & Good Luck,

Bob-O

A few of my dogs are on there are well, (pedigrees) as well as one with a photo that I NEVER GAVE PERMISSION FOR THEM TO USE!!!  How do I get that info off of their site? While I understand the pedigree info might not be copyrighted, by Ohio law, my photo is, and I want it removed immediately.  I will contact my law professors first thing Monday to inquire about this!!!

Whomever owns this other site.....you should be ashamed of yourself!   I think what you have done is as low as the horrible people out there coning dog people and stealing dogs!!!   I know for a fact that Al Gill (gillsgermanshepherds owner and retired police officer) has all of his photos copyrighted, so i will be contacting him as well to see if he gave his permission for his photos to be used. 

Oli, I wish you the best in your legal issues with this and pray that you take them down in the worst way.  If you need ANY assistance, please let me know!

Christine

Ah, I just made a peek at the offending website and pictures of my dogs are there as well. This is the same website that appeared a couple of years ago, was suddenly placed for sale, and then "poof!" vanished from the world-wide web. I do remember the owners of the website suddenly publishing various statements on the site to imply they were doing nothing wrong with the data they used. Hmmm....

Best Regards,

Bob-O

I also looked and my entries are there also..

I wrote and demanded they be removed. Does anyone know who actually owns this site? 

HarleyGirl, If you click on link that says this site for sale, contact me ,you will have the e-mail

address.http://gsddata.com/bbs/message.aspx?VelueX=8ad91790-ee08-4b16-87d5-6fa41e89b04d

See if that works..  

Judy

Has anyone that has e-mailed professional heard back from him as to when he will remove the dogs he had no permission to post?

Thanks Laramie I am going to go now and see if that works. Like I said me posting pictures is one thing, and had they asked I probably wouldn't have minded but I don't like people just taking her picture.

They took my boy's photo also and it was from here.;  Not only that, they scrunched it up and it looks like he has a huge scrunched up head and very little body..............