SV going to change the rules - Page 6

"Nobody cares..." says Shawnicus, but that isn't true. He mistakes his cloistered use for the GSD to be universally modern, but his limited scope leaves him with blinders. He only wants to know what he wants for his future.

Sad for the animals that get caught into that controlled life, for such a thinking breed.

"...kinda like Susie and hex".

Shawnicus, I think that's about the nicest thing you've ever said about somebody on here--though I'm sure you thought you were being insulting.

I'm happy to find myself placed in the company of susie, any day of the week. susie deserves better, however.

As with any breed, the first several generations were basically mutts. The were a mix of several breeds that were refined into the what the founder's goals. The founder passed in the mid 1930's, and he was of course instrumental in shaping the breed's physical and characteristics. Using the first few generations as a go-by is simply incorrect. Using dogs from the late '30, is much more accurate, as the dogs had many generations to become what the founder wanted them to be.

In their formative years, GSD endured a world war, dogs were taken from their owners to become war dog, the population dwindled. The surviving dogs were dogs had certain propensities traits as they were used mainly police and border security It's important to point out that they also had other jobs...ambulance dogs, search dogs, search dogs, messenger dogs, seeing eye dogs, personal guardians, and companions were just a few examples. [Hitler's dog(s) were very social and friendly, demonstrated thru old WWII video reals].

In all cases, except maybe border patrol, the GSD was required to have a balanced and steady temperament, to be neutral, loyal and intelligent. Balancing assuredness, drives, and aggression has always been important.

Many of us like to sensationalize history, placing more importance on some things and less on others, ie.; a badass border patrol dog is much more exciting to think about than a dog that searched out the wounded or delivered messages in the trenches. To know the GSD is to know all of the jobs and temperaments it required. The GSD has never been solely a guard, police, or border dog. The were not initially bred to be super driven sport dogs, instead they were bred for various jobs, and the breed survey, including SchH was used to prove the dog's temperament was not weak, that it was social, and eager to please. 

Only in recent history has SchH become a sole reason for breeding for some. 

IMO - breeding only for a sport, just as in breeding only for show, is the ruination of the breed. Taking a dog from the kennel to the field is a huge detriment. 

 

Good post, Sitasmom!

SitasMom,

 

@Sitasmom : EXCELLENT post, Kim, and something several of us have been at pains to say, especially to Shawnicus and others who think on the same lines as him, for some time now.

Unfortunately it does not seem to sink in, he chooses not to believe us, but to stick to his own blinkered views - and I'm not sure what we can do about that. 

Linda Swift, speaking I hope on behalf of the MAJORITY of GSD owners everywhere.

Definitely Not a good post , To a lot of you commenting, balanced means a dog with basically no backbone but I don't even know why I get into it with u guys none of u even own any working dogs much less work them or are involved in working dogs, just regurgitating nonsense u read on the web but Iam gonna go ahead and disagree on what a balance dog should be

Suppose that has to depend on what you understand the word/concept of "balance" to mean.

Shawninus

This is from your post

To a lot of you commenting, balanced means a dog with basically no backbone but I don't even know why I get into it with u guys none of u even own any working dogs much less work them or are involved in working dogs,

Would you post what your dog does that you think is work that you think the other members dogs do not cannot do.  Would you show us how your dogs have backbone and show us how the members dogs do not as you seem sure that they don't.