Letter from Dr. Heinrich of the WUSV - Page 6

Copied and pasted from a german shepherd.org site

Ruined, as such diatribes usually are, by ignorant pointless shit as part of its content, Kitkat.
"GSDs in wheelchairs" - SMH : would someone please remind the fool(s) who wrote this piece that carts have been used for DM cases for decades now, and DM has NOTHING to do with either the slope (or 'downfall'!), or HD ? And citing Arnie, as an expert quote on the GSD ? Give me a break.

What was that all about KitKat? I must be stupid as I didn't understand any of it and the relevance to this thread?

 

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No relevance to this thread....let me go back and pick out the relevant parts...
I was in no way citkng ANYONE AS EXPERT...i am using tablet so my copy /paste skills are not real good

Nevermind..i guess i m the only one that grasped the complaint about the stacking of the German Shepherd, and those pushing down the rear ends to make them look...well, i can t say better...
That has to do with the breeders and the deformities plaguing the breed.
I no way would begrudge a dog a wheelchair HM...for any reason...what ever the reason a dog finds the need for one, WHATEVER...IS THRU NO MEANS OF THEIR OWN....
Do your own search of German Shepherd stack pics...feast your eyes....
THAT IS OF MORE CONCERN TO ME, THAN TRAINING METHODS, and it should be everyone who loves the breed.
The article complained of the size...and that those who regulate size, are are the same ones in Germany judging, and allowing the change to continuewith no action to stop it, oversize, conformation, and so on.

 Gießen were quoted wrongly and out of context obviously with the intention to stagily bring our breed into disrepute. In a completely unjustified fashion our breed was associated with so-called torture- and aggression breeding.

The criticism that is reiterated time and time again is the so-called sloping back line which is associated with all kinds of disease patterns and diagnosis such as hip dysplasia. I am an orthopedic surgeon myself and well familiar with the common specialized literature. And thus I dare say that those associations are fundamentally wrong and scientifically completely unfounded. Unfortunately, the term “downhill dog” has become that engrammed into the minds of lay people in terms of cynological terminology that corrective action is more than mandatory in order to once again establish a more objective public view with the aim to improve our breed’s image again.

A very simple way to cope with that imminent problem would be that dogs may no longer be touched and have to be allowed to stand unsupported and not being forced into the “downhill position” during the judgement in show stance. The same applies for the exercise of free gait while the dogs pause.

If we allow our dogs to stand in a natural position and refrain from manipulatively pulling their hind legs into an unnatural position, we could already prove those arguments raised against our breed wrong.

Another aspect that needs to be considered in this respect is the so-called “instable hind leg” or more precisely worded the excessive angulation of the rear extremity (limb) which is basically caused by a disproportionate growth between the upper and lower thigh on the one hand and in relation to the forehand on the other hand. We need to fight those excesses and to strictly apply sanctions on this disfiguring and performance reducing behavior.

In the future to come only pictures and photos may be approved of and published – particularly regarding the BSZ conformation show – if the requirements as pointed out above will be met accordingly. In consideration of the habits and customs that developed among our “clientele” in terms of that appearance they became so familiar with I am sure we will have to face considerable challenges and also problems which need to be addressed and tackled accordingly


AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN PUT THIS PORTION OF THE ABOVE LETTER TOGETHER WITH WHAT I POSTED..I GUESS I BETTER GO BACK TO SCHOOL....

I also find it ridicules to say the americans are not conforming to SV rules...
The germans in many kennels are bigger offenders to the standard

I also find it ridicules to say the americans are not conforming to SV rules...

what it is for you? SV in germany, you not. so why you care? you breed dog and it not deutscher schaeferhund. so what? unless hurt pocketbook and you want red paper money, what is matter?

from statistic view, most gsd litters made in america but only less than 2000 members in sv schutzhund and breed club. not hard for understanding that most litters not from titled parent with koerung. so, most breeder not conform to lowest common denominator SV rule. if it matter to you, just do all SV requirement and then you can sing with SV in uniform that most americans not conform to SV rules.

SV breeder always think you no good. many good dogs come to amerika and nothing happens. so SV breeders laughing way to banking account and sell more next year. same thing. many decades now. it's big joke. not just SV people but all europe breeder. einstein say that doing same thing repeat but expect different outcome, person insane. so europe breeder laughing at insane but laughing quiet since they laughing more and loud when deposit money every year like watch work.

The germans in many kennels are bigger offenders to the standard

you know canine in kennel, human outside kennel. but it can be good put bad breeder in kennel for time. maybe sell ticket for offended breeder for watching.

Kitkat I did get the point of the extract you posted, and I am not disagreeing with your later post re the handlers stacking the dogs, too much manipulation. (But I have said all this already days ago on another thred.) The thing that pisses me off about the "germanshepherd.org" extract is PRECISELY that anything sensible and useful said in that sort of histrionic comment gets lost - as immediately evident on here - BECAUSE the writer fails to appreciate that sticking in emotive extraneous data (which bears no relevance or even resemblance to truth often, as in this example) detracts from their argument. At least have the nous not to forward it onwards in its whole glory, if you don't want to ruin your own rep for intelligent and descriminating posts.

Well... considering how hard it is to actually find a good club in the US that's within a reasonable distance it doesn't surprise that a lot of dogs are not titled.

Titling a dog in 3 Phases takes a lot of time and knowledge. You can't just go out there and do it all by yourself if you've never done it before. It takes a team to title a dog and it takes an even better team to go all the way to the top.

Furthermore, Germans can't even comprehend the cost of titling a dog in the US. So if any German is trying to judge someone in the US for not titling a dog in IPO, go stick it!

There are other venues to title your dogs in. IPO is no longer the all to be!

Unfortunately the above sentiment is becoming common thought in the United States. Mostly from people that have never titled a dog, but even those that used to title their dogs are realizing there isn’t a necessity to do so in order to sell puppies at competing prices of import puppies from Europe and half the headache for the buyer. Lack of titled dogs and titled dogs at high levels increase the necessity to import more impressive males and bloodlines from Europe leading to less and less American bred dogs. Because people are using lesser sports to prove their dogs…you’re unlikely to see a big name stud dogs produced in the United States. On top of that it’s a rarity to place more than 50% of your puppies in working homes anyways.

Sad though that even people within an hour of national level helpers claim to have no one to work with and that it’s too hard to title in this country. It’s not that hard, just need to make a few more sacrifices if you claim to love the breed as much as you do.