Aggressive Puppy - Page 6

And further a working dog living in a house requires a lot of attention; if not they can do a lot of damage if they get bored . We have had the following things damaged mattress, sofa, walls, shoes, window nets, scratches to doors. Now that she is older these things are no longer an issue; she gets her time everyday because she always wants/ has to be doing something.

I dont know if her aggressive behavior has anything to do with her not being corrected much( We did want to shut her down by improper correction ). I think her aggression is genetic because it appeared suddenly ( as soon as she was about  6 months old ). Then I learned that a full sister to the dog on which she is closely line bred was producing many pups that were territorial and aggressive at a young age ( 4 months ).  But we are fine with and we have places were she gets full off leash, but we cant do this with people near by. \

On of our associate trainers had a Mal from KNPV lines ( a son of Hunter..Sire   of the 2013 KNPV winner, Big Roy ). The dog lived in his house; I aksed him how he managed that with a driven Mal. He told me that the dog spent most of the indoor  time in a crate. I would never keep a dogif it has to be crated all the time, just to protect the wholesomeness of my indoors; I just find this to be cruel. He eventuall sold the  Mal at age 19 months, and got a pretty good price for him.

Mith, you read an awful lot into one sentence of mine.
I was just talking about the attitude of far too many dog
owners in this day & age, they think a pup only needs
to be cuddled and it will train itself. While that is not
confined to city-dwellers, it is disproportionately true of
them.

The very IDEA they might need to do more follows -
if the other shoe drops at all - only AFTER they acquire
the dog and begin to have problems with it. I thought
Bee's post summed it up right.

IME, dogs becoming 'too' aggressive frequently happens
around 6 months, or thereabouts, and can be summed up
by A) hormones, as they enter puberty & start to test the
boundaries; and B) how long it takes for a pup to mature
enough to recognise that it is living with humans who don't
have a clue about the demands placed on them by dog
ownership.

You know folks I must have been going wrong somewhere.
In all those years of dogs in & out of my homes, whether as
permanent residents or 'just visiting', my total damage list
is as follows : cover chewed off one valuable (borrowed !)
copy of Nem Elliot's book on GSD Bloodlines; one chairleg
slightly gnawed; 3 waste baskets emptied over floors.  Oh.

and 1 door slightly scratched.  Zero mattresses split, no holes

in walls, no shoes destroyed. Period.  Never had a pup bite

me so hard I had to have medical attention, either.

[Plenty of kapok from torn up dog toys though, LOL]
Why ? Because I armed myself with what to expect, and the
pups/dog with diversionary alternatives; and I didn't leave
dogs unmonitored nor bite off more than I could chew in terms
of access and numbers.

It is what it is ...

A working GSD in the heart of New York City is not a good mix - in all - but very limited circumstances. That being said, WE cause almost all of our dogs issues. I check myself often....2 issues - Doggy Day Care - but I think the larger one is - "Not allowing on the couch." That one sentence is complex. Was the pup taken home, carried onto the couch, on the lap of the owner, whispered sweet nothings, allowed to fall asleep in the owners arms - ON THE COUCH. Then one day, when the pup was bigger and not as cute, she decided to lay on the couch on her own accord.........It seems the aggression is directed at the owners. Lunging out of fear / defense drive. She's probably had her ass kicked - unfairly in her mind for BEING ON THE COUCH - didn't know why or where the ass kicking came from - other than from her owner. Now she senses the nervous hesitation her owner has towards her after the initial lashing out incident - and it's all gone down hill from there. ONE TIME LEARNING (Conditioning) - from a traumatic event can have everlasting effects - if that learning and behavior / reaction from that learning is allowed to grow and fester. The pup probably has a bright future - just not with her present people. Best of luck to all.

Yes , the sofa thing was weird thats why I threw that in there. The puppy was lunging & attacking people & there was no attempt to correct behaviour or any emotions towards the pups reaction whatsoever , but they were adament about the pup not being on the sofa. My friend who was very diplomatic about the situation referred them to a professional. So hopefully I'll know something more tomorrow & can post an update I know the people on here have alot of experience with dogs & can give really sound advice. Thanks

Ok just wanted to give all those that replied an update. They went to training session it went well . They will go again next week. So basically the trainer told her pretty much the same things that you guys & my friend was saying. Puppy lacks confidence/ owners lack confidence. They bought a correction collar & was taught how to use it properly. Being thrown into doggy daycare with adult dogs was not the best thing for the puppy , of course. They have a plan of action set in place for the puppy. It seems like it was a really positive experience for them . They liked the trainer & thanked me for the referral. Thanks again for the knowledge

Phew !!! Good to hear. Hope they stick with it.

Yes they said they will keep in touch & come back with a changed puppy . Hopefully to play with Beauty. I wanted to post a pic of her but once again cannot get pic to upload.

Lady try this  link

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/community.read?post=476789-how-to-upload-images-into-messages-or-classifieds

Western did that actually work this time? Thanks