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by Gigante on 23 January 2016 - 03:01
In working dogs not couch pets the ability to work as unit and as individuals is the ultimate goal. This ability is long lost in my opinion. If I need attention it would be beneficial to have constant needyness in the dog. If I need the attention to be on the job then the dog you describe is useless. Two entities both whole, sometimes working or always working but living and enjoying our walk on the rock together with common goals is the goal. If your dog has to be attuned to you at all time for your bond, who is guarding the sheep?

by Jenni78 on 23 January 2016 - 03:01
Mithuna: "Jenni, I thought Hexe had sent you into hiding?"
What are you talking about? Is this another case of mistaken identity, such as hntrjmpr vs. joanro? You've lost me.

by Hundmutter on 23 January 2016 - 03:01
Award for stirring the pot ! Very trollish.

by Jenni78 on 23 January 2016 - 03:01
by hexe on 23 January 2016 - 05:01

by Mithuna on 23 January 2016 - 06:01
So isn't it Jenni who was complaining about the site working slowly and Hexe blew her away for such nagging at a site she was using for free?
My bad Hexe it was Nans you blew away.
Btw Hexe..you are very smart...don't give a newbie like me the power to make you sear. Someone just told me that you never know what to expect from an upper middle age woman who is 24/7 on PBD.

by GSD Admin on 23 January 2016 - 06:01
I am unsure about observing the emotional well being of dogs from one picture but I am sure about observing the emotional well being of humans posting on a forum. It is what it is. :)

by vtgsd on 23 January 2016 - 13:01
"but the principle is that if the owner is physically near the dog, a sign of a functional bond/relationship is that the dog becomes obviously alert to the owner"s presence . Exceptions to this may include the dog's health or physical state at the time or the focus of the dog on some other activity, especially involving a primary drive."
Ummmm.... my dogs are all in the living room with me this morning and are SO comfortable with their environment and in-tuned with what I do on a day to day basis that they remain asleep as I step over them to get a refill on my coffee, no need to wake up or move since they know this is my routine. They know my every move whether their eyes are open or not and the minute I put down my second cup of coffee and walk in the direction of getting dressed they jump up with life since now they know it's their turn to do something. Nothing to do with lack of bond, being ill. Same with at night when sleeping in the bedroom, they know I get up 20+ times a night and don't wake up every time I move but somehow they know when I'm officially getting up without them being told....
Also a dog outside doesn't have to stare of look at it's owner to be intuned with them. I can bring all my dogs outside to romp around in the woods and they will check back with me but will be off doing their own thing unless I ask them to come at my side. I prefer a dog to be a free thinker and watch where they're going in opposed to watching me always, even when on a leash in town, look ahead and watch where you're going not at me!
Yes, you can tell a dogs emotional state, NEVER from a photo. Since a good photographer can make almost anything look good in a moments time or a they can make it look truly horrible...
A dog in a kennel doesn't have any less of a bond with its' owner, if the owner spends time with the dog. Your friend you describe with the dog that likes other dogs more is a product of improper raising and allowing the dog to play with other dogs endlessly without first raising the dog to be with him/her. Any dog kennel raised with other dogs is more prone to bond and like other dogs more if the owner/handler didn't balance out the kennel dog's time between play with other dog and quality time with it's human at an early age. It just means the other dogs are more interesting than it's owner IMO...

by Northern Maiden on 23 January 2016 - 16:01
vtgsd! My thoughts exactly!

by Jenni78 on 23 January 2016 - 19:01
This could be a really interesting topic if the asker was genuinely more interested in people's thoughts on it than she is in starting drama and didn't have set-in-stone ideals already in place. Kinda fruitless.
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