Stop Payment on Check NOT Theft !!! - Page 6

  Betty,

Ditto, good to "see " you again!!  And your last post was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT-- the internet does change the playing field and the field of play!!  Ditto Sueinc.   A statement simply saying, " If ound out the hard way that placing a stop payment on a check is not illegal...in Oregon."  Period.   Sue is right--all the sordid details, AGAIN and as per usual, were extraneous.

 I was in this guy's position with the first puppy I bought for schutzhund.  Even then, but especially knowing what I do now, that was a great puppy.  It was chasing a turkey when I went to the kennel to pick her up.  I had to clean feathers out of her mouth.     That was on Saturday.    I took her to my vet for a health exam, but without bloodwork, etc.  She appeared to be the picture of health!!  She got home and settled right in, as if she had always lived there and always had that pillow to sleep on.    But, the next day, I knew something was wrong and she stopped eating.   By Monday, the puppy had lost weight.  I took the puppy to the vet.  The first words out of his mouth were, "I think it's parvo."  But, he also sent me to my doctor for blood tests, because of a puncture incurred trying to force-feed the puppy.   Her blood work came back the next day--PARVO.  ( Mine, from Group Health/Death took an additional week!!).   The vet kept her, she was on antibiotics, IV fluids, etc.   She apparently beat the parvo, but not the sepsis that set in.   She was dead about 15 days later.   The breeder,  initially claimed it was a false positive from a recent vaccine,  then that she must have  been exposed after I got her.   He was told point-blank by the vet that this was NOT a false positive, the puppy had parvo and CLEARLY had it when purchased, because of the incubation period.   I ended up paying $750 in vet bills  ( my vet is beyond reasonable--he only charges $35 for OFA xrays, for example), on top of the purchase price for the puppy.  Now, this idiot KNEW what I did for a living when I first met him,  yet he acted an idiot about replacing the puppy.   Long story short--you can lay waste to the average person's life with a measely $2500 judgement and Washington State has treble damages covering pet and horse sales.    I was almost disappointed when he capitulated.

I still think of that puppy from time to time--I think it would have turned out to be the best bitch I have seen to date in the sport.  I don't think that is with rosy-colored hindsight, either.  

N

from time to time i accept 300 euro cash, one back rub, box of viagra and two salami sandwich on rye for the pick of litter.  for pet style puppy i take 50 euro away.

What would I do different?  I would have driven over myself and picked the pup up from the buyer as soon as they said it was sick and the vet concured.  I would not expect them to drive the 6 hour drive from Roseburg to Herimston, again, to return it to you.  They did not know the puppy was sick so why expect them to jump through the hoops.  They had already done one round trip to get the sick pup.  I would have driven over, returned their check and written a check for vet bills they had already entailed.  then I would have taken the pup home for whatever further treatment was needed.  That is what I would have done differently.

Also, I would not post their names and address on my website.  How is that different from a corner mom and pop store you ask?  Local exposure versus world wide exposure.

In anycase verify funds or make sure the cash hits your account before sending puppy home. I know some buyers may balk at this but it's the way I have paid for all of my pups. I have sent personal checks for deposits and pup payments but I paid way before ever taking possesion of the pup, so the seller has "cash" in hand before I get pup sent. I know John Q public will think they are being ripped off by this (buyer has the control and must be trusted) but better to make them work for their buy than you take it in the ass. If they are in such a hurry to have pup in hand right now, they can go fly a kite or follow the rules you have for yourself. I'm assuming they had been to your place to see/play/pick a fav pup and read/sign contracts. They had plenty of time to also "jump through payment hoops" before taking puppy home. Too many people have that "I want my puppy right now" complex. Paying first and going home to set up pup shop and returmog when funds are "cleared" and the family is "really" ready for the pup, is in the best intrest of everybody. Buyer has time to change their mind and seller has time to secure funds. In a perfect world seller would refund buyers $ if they changed their minds. Better a little inconvenience than a pup in the wrong hands.

Animules,

Absolutely!! THAT would have been the correct way to handle the matter.  Oh, but that would not have engendered any drama and  allowed "someone"  to play victim....AGAIN.   So, that would have defeated the whole purpose, which , apparently, is neverending petty drama.  

Let's not forget that all this roundtripping would be  stressing to the SICK puppy's immune system, which is the reason I did not return my sick pup at the outset.  I wanted to give the poor thing the best possible chance with a terrivle disease, so I did what was best for the puppy.   All the rangling and sturm und drang waited for later. 

I would think any attorney would have advised against posting the buyer's identity on-line, because it icould be  a nice road to a defamation lawsuit.  Don't know, as I have no intention of checking the website--been there, done that, don't want to visit again.  

Someone sent me a you tube clip of someone farting. (it was really dumb)  I then noticed that there are actually a whole group of people who seem to be dedicated to capturing farts live on tv  or on video cameras so they can put them on youtube.  That's kind of what this invented drama reminds me of.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sue,

I am one of those people who are quite entertained by the sophmoric humor of farting, vomiting, and other various bodily functions

Oh then you understand british humor too.