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by duke1965 on 01 July 2017 - 15:07

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 01 July 2017 - 18:07
(*Blind people are taught to listen for the 'clink' of the guide dog's choke chain. It helps them know what the dog is doing. Not exactly sure of the details, but ALL guide dogs trained by the CNIB wear choke chains or martingale collars.)
Most legitimate SDs I know work on prong collars as well because a lot of people don't have strength in hands, or mobility issues, ballance issues etc and dogs are still dogs no matter how well they are trained. If the prong is taken away it's going to be a whole different ball game.

by Hundmutter on 01 July 2017 - 18:07
UK Guide Dogs for blind people wear harness with a handle, when working. The owners may be recommended to listen for a 'clink' when their dog is off-lead for R&R, but never had anyone tell me this. Have seen many guide dogs wearing flat collars. Check chains exist here but are not highly favoured; especially given methods used when training guide dogs here nowadays. No longer got a lot of blind handlers 'on tap' to ask, these days, but I will try to find out more on this one. NB the very idea of Guide Dogs being trained with prongs, or electric collars, is just funny !

by Sunsilver on 02 July 2017 - 03:07
And of course, they wear the standard guide dog harness with a handle, plus a leash attached to their collar.

by Hundmutter on 02 July 2017 - 05:07
The UK Trainers across this whole spectrum of helpful canines just don't rely on the more 'physical' training tools any longer (where they ever did).

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 02 July 2017 - 09:07

by Hundmutter on 02 July 2017 - 16:07
I don't personally rule out any 'tool'; there is always the chance it will suit a dog for whom other things don't work. But I don't much enjoy using a prong collar, even if the 'pressure' on muscles is used correctly and the prong is fitted right. They really are not very popular generally among UK dog folk; in fact there are those who insist they are painful and should be banned. I am just intrigued that the approach is so different between our two countries, and yet both successfully train and use thousands of dogs. It does raise interesting questions ...

by BlackMalinois on 02 July 2017 - 20:07
You people going very out off topic what have the last posts to do with the opening post can someone explain this...........

by Sunsilver on 03 July 2017 - 01:07
Um, because it's the PDB, and keeping people on topic here is like trying to herd cats??

by Hundmutter on 03 July 2017 - 05:07
@ Sunsilver:
@Black Mal: Sorrreee !
Meeow ...
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