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by susie on 21 March 2015 - 18:03
"Cryptorchidism is a combination of genetics and environment and is clearly not learned."
??? Environment ???
Not going to debate with you about dog sports - you really seem to have an "IPO" trauma.

by Red Sable on 22 March 2015 - 13:03
So sorry to hear about your dog susie, please accept my condolensces also. :(
I'm a huge believer in genetics. If they haven't got it to begin with, they'll never get it.
by joanro on 22 March 2015 - 13:03
Depends on what 'it' is.

by Red Sable on 22 March 2015 - 21:03
Courage and fight drive for starters.
by hexe on 23 March 2015 - 06:03
I would certainly like to hear more about what type of environment contributes to cryptorchidism...
by Allan1955 on 23 March 2015 - 11:03
Sorry to here about your losses.
Imo genetics are like a rough diamond that has to be cut and shaped into a gem. While i can't change the nature of the stone i still can ruin the gem.
While i can't change or improve on good genetics i can still ruin good genetics by bad nurture.
Good genetics and good nuture equals good performance.
So nature and nurture are equally important imho.
by Gustav on 23 March 2015 - 12:03
To me good genetics has ability to adjust to good or bad nurturing and still thrive, with weak or bad genetics there is always a low ceiling to the dogs adjustment whether good or bad nuturing.
by Blitzen on 23 March 2015 - 14:03
My current GSD had 7 homes by the time I got her when she was 3 1/2. I don't think she was ever mistreated, rather she was overlooked by all but one of her former owners and received little training or acclimation to real world situations. It took a few months to bring her around to the point where I could show and title her, but she's doing very well now - 3 years later. Nature or nurture? I don' t know. Maybe some of each?
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