I personally only know of a few people who have these colors that are serious about doing ALL health test, not just hips, and they are also active with their dogs in obed., herding, agility, and therapy, also UKC shows.  they are not doing schutzhund but at least they are involved with these dogs.  they don't just have them out in kennels or the backyard producing more dilute pups cause they are "rare" and for $. 

most of the other people who concentrate solely on these colors do nothing with their dogs, not even a simple OFA.

Ugh yeah, KC I just looked at that site and another, the dogs look back yard quality. That's just super that they keep pumping there "unique" pups out as fast as they can sell. Out of like 10 dogs, 2 had a decent GSD structure, the others looked like aussies, huskies or a number of mixed junk, ears laid down or way out wide, long coats, tiny heads. I guess that's what you get when you breed based off of colors, not lines and your usually using total outcrosses everytime. People who breed like this are picking pups out at birth age because they want a certain color not the best representation of the breed, which takes longer to assess.

I don't shun these dogs for their color but their horrible breed quality. Uber Lands dogs are good quality but they were bred for "quality" not color. I don't get how that is so fing had to understand?

I saw a breed years ago, was supposed to be like a mini shepherd, the breed was in the czech republic.  for the life of me I can't remember the name of them though. I think they ranged in size from 30-40 lbs. and looked longcoated.  the ones I saw had lots of black and were fairly dark red in color.

 After touring some of those colorful links......

WOW.....some of the GSD's were starting to not resemble the
breed anymore, is it just me, or did some look like mutts??? 

OH and welcome to the board man...........

I call those "junk" bred GSD's mirasmom. Pointy ears and a saddle is the only resemblance.

Bou Mom -they're gorgeous!

The reason some of the colors were not in the breed standard is because of the ignorance of the day - whites where thought to "cuase" dilutions in color, for example.  I believe livers were thought to have other health related defects.  We know now that neither of those premises are true.  In fact, if one actually WANTS to say that the breed standards should not change - then whites should be allowed, as they used to be accepted. 

Clearly, when disqualifications are based on superstition and not fact, and when science shows us that the the differently colored dogs are not inferior - there is nothing left to argue but entrenched bigotry, IMO.

I agree with Uber Land - health and quality, tests and proper breeding practices need to be followed by all breeders, but color as a disqualification is a disservice to the breed overall. 

Superstition and not fact? May I suggest you pick up a few good GSD books, hell, just read the standard. May I recommend Ernest Hart and Winifred Gibson Strickland. They wrote some fabulous, unbiased, invaluable books on the GSD. You can literally measure a dogs correctness, with a photo and protractor, once you have educated yourself on correct GSD proportions and angles.  As I said, this not a color argument, this is a QUALITY argument. If you honestly think the dogs on those links are breed quality (complete lack of health certs, structural ratings, and perfomance titles nonwithstanding), then your education on the GSD is seriously lacking.

I have yet to see one of these so-called "rare" dogs being bred with at least SG quality structure, performance titles, and completely free of genetic health problems or any other disqualifying fault (dentition, ears, testicles, etc.).  Find me a few and prove to me that they are of comparable quality physically and mentally to dogs who currently meet the standard, and you'll never hear me complain about color again. I double dog dare you.

You don't hear me complain too much about coats because I have seen many, many of them with exceptional structure, great health, and fabulous temperament. If and when the SV accepts them again I look forward to what they could bring to the breed. Can't say I say the same about these rainbow doggies, as I have yet to meet one that makes that impression.

"read a few books?"  - I think you don't realize that you're actually agreeing with me......  LOL!

Oh yeah, this one is really funny!!!!!!  Standards????   We don't need no stinkin standards!!!!!  Just like we don't need no stinkin conformation ratings or breed surveys or working trials to determine whether or not a dog is suitable for breeding!!!!  Just ask LuvDemDogs because he had a little smart dog so he knows.