Ol Roy dog food - Page 5

Very nice thread ! My observations have been on the dogs natural life in the wild! Mostly meats and small game ! but another observation I made is typical of those few individuals and is consistent with their actions! A thread that is informative and a pleasure to read which induces learning ! But oh no some smart ass like vom marischal has to  insert some freaking smart ass comment to spoil the whole damn subject! I was pleasurably reading and enjoying the thread and this  smart ass comment   induced to the owner of this site just  screws everything up! 

Your last sentences served no purpose except to hurt . How do you reconcile that?

I don't think it was said to hurt -- he made an observation, as did I, and spoke the truth about it.  Her comment was so unnecessary.

I think everyone just needs to stop. 

I am done are you guys?

Hurt ! Hurt whom? you have no feeling bee! If you did you would not act as you do1 I was enjoying the thread immensly untill smart ass vom marischal just had to start some shit1 hell no she could not stay on topic and neither you or sock or ninja told her to do so1 You probably sat back and laughed! this is all of my point! just you and a few other smart asses ruin topics for everyone! Maybee others will tolerate it but I will not! I hate having some arrogant ass spoil my reading!

I think everyone just needs to stop.

I am done are you guys?

Excellent thread.  Thanks VB for starting it and to all for the great information. 

I have thought of horse meat as part of a raw diet but as others have mentioned the drugs involved preclude that.  I think the only safe way around here would be buy one and pasture it for a few months to insure no drugs of any kind were left in their system.   In the mean time, I buy the periodic natural grass fed beef and share it with my dogs.  I think they get more than I do....

 

"then I switched to AD deficient Fish oils "

Oli, why AD deficient?   If you said why, I missed it.

I can't speak for Oli, but in general Vitamin A and D build up toxicity rather fast in canines.

So if you're giving large quantities of something on a daily basis, you want to avoid something that contains those vitamins.

There's nothing specifically harmful about those vitamins in and of themselves, its just a quantity issue.

I am sure that dogs fed a homecooked diet probably do very well, like dogs fed good quality kibble.  But I have seen the difference in dogs raised on completely raw diets, and those fed a combination of cooked and other foods, including kibble, and I'd have to say, the dogs raised completely on raw food seem to look like they are at the best health they can be.

Like was pointed out earlier, cooking bones strips them of their calcium and makes them brittle, so regardless of what you do with the meat, you have to feed the bones raw.  I have supplemented Oakley a few times with the raw, including bones, when I can get the scraps I need from the butcher, and she eats the bones completely.  There are no pieces.  And the stools are dark and small, as opposed to the mountains that come from the poor kibbles.

My stepson persisted in feeding his Giant Alaskan malamute Nutro large breed puppy, and oh, the mountains that poured from her.  Large, runny, nasty piles...Now he dumps Kibbles N Bits in her, and the piles are smaller, thank God, though still foul, and usually full of plastic, leather, or other foreign material she has eaten.

Oli, interesting point with the horsemeat.  Too bad about the drugs they use now...I wonder if the drugs are more for the human's comfort, than the animal, for a gunshot applied correctly results in instant death.  I don't care to imagine what happens with the drugs, though I hope it is peaceful.  The bad side, however, is that not only is the meat contaminated and not useful for consumption, but also, you now have a large carcass to dispose of.

Crys