Is Miles 12 or 13??? 

Its a fact, train all you want, but young  Breeding males not just intact males but ones who actually reproduce do get testy with other males when a female is ready to breed.  It is natural and survival of the fittest.  I don't doubt that you have trained your male to ignore this instinct but given the right situation if he is an actively breeding, alpha male he will respond.  The breeder said what happened, the trainer said what happened and the judge made his opinion.   Thats it.  This board does not run the show, please don't let the weakest people on this board ruin a great dog or his trainer and kennel.  Titan is a very well balanced dog as is his father.  He went VA2 last year and looked great!!  2010 is his !!!  Don't take away from that. 

If you have better and can do better then Titan, thats great. See you and your dog at the competition.  Thats what it comes to.  Sportsmanship!!! 

GSD Travels --

Pretty rich that someone who admitted that when they got their dog, they had no idea who Max was, is now telling us about his vision!

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You are either Senile or you are a damn Liar -- which is it?   

Good Life --

Many on the PDB do not know the meaning of Sportsmanship.   They cannot be happy for another's win.   They run their mouths with accusations and gossip -- cutting down Breeders / Show Lines / Winners.    Yet, you will never see any of them on the Winner's Platform -- never, ever.

They "focus in" on  BITE WORK only.   As crazy as it sounds, it is their REASON for LIVING !!!   LOL --- actually, it is true and is not funny at all.  

Maggie:

Here is a little lite reading for you from someone that really knows the breed. It kinda says it all.

 

...work is an indispensable necessity for the shepherd dog....

...The most striking feature of the correctly bred German Shepherd are firmness of nerves, attentiveness, unshockability, tractability, watchfulness, reliability and incorruptibility together with courage, fighting tenacity, and hardness....

...Take this trouble for me: Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim...

..Utility is the true criterion of beauty...

...The breeding of Shepherd dogs must be the breeding of working dogs, this must always be the aim or we shall cease to produce working dogs...

  All 5 quotes above Rittmeister Captain Max von Stephanitz (founder of the GSD and SV) 1864-1936 

As usual, you all received a clear signal that this thread was headed toward devolution. The thread has now devolved to the usual name-calling and juvenile snarky remarks by the ignorant (double handling is EXCLUSIVE to the show ring!!!). LOL Keith, Robin, Keith, Eddie and others who actually have some knowledge and experience in the topic : time to move on and leave this thread to the uninformed and their usual.

Bob -- and Please DON'T forget this quote  --

“Trials always remain trials, they can never be completely like real life, same as the exercise can never be equal to war. But we can all recognize if the leader and his troops are ready for the real thing, and so it is for trials.

It is the responsibility of the judges to conclude based on the exercises and the way in which they were solved if the dog is suited for work. Of course, the mistakes of the handler and of the training must be taken into account. Such a judgment about the suitability for work is useful for the breeding effort, but you cannot demand more from a trial otherwise it will become a goal in itself, a sport, and will harm instead of being useful to the breeding effort.

We must realize that we do not breed and work for exhibitions or trials but for our breed and to serve the general public (common good). Trial artists do not serve this purpose anymore than empty exhibition winners, and performance trials are to real work as a school exam is to real life as many pupils will fail in real life that excelled in school exams and had an excellent final report.”

(p.1130 Max v Stephanitz Der Deutsche Schaeferhund in Wort und Bild 8th edition 2nd replication print of 1932 edition, SV 1987)

DNFTT!!!!!!!!

Maggie has never been to a schutzhund trial, she has no idea what she is talking about.  This is just  maggs saying anything she can to get attention. 

They "focus in" on BITE WORK only. As crazy as it sounds, it is their REASON for LIVING !!! LOL --- actually, it is true and is not funny at all.

What does this even have to do with this thread?  As evident by the performance (or lack thereof) of most of the "working class" dogs at the recent Sieger Shows (not unique to the USA SS) are not only not focusing on bitework only, they are not focusing on it at all.

Sue -- Hellooooo; I see you are still regurgitating the same old stuff.   No one is talking with you nor cares what you have to say ,,,,,  and STOP trying to ruin the Thread !!!