Von Hunterhaus, 39 dogs seized - Page 40

He is not by any means corruptpting anyting,,, why is your direct hit on Frank?  Who are you?  

Anyone can look me up, Tralee Kennels, Becky Collins

To traleekennels:

It does matter to all of the people on here that the dogs got/get good loving homes. The problem is that it was done in a sneaky deceptive manner.

Now, if those people who got all the breeder/show dogs ( the cream of the crop, if you will) had signed an agreement to spay/neuter them after they got possession,  I am sure there wouldn't be much of a stink raised.  I wonder if they would do that now?  Probably a snowballs chance in hell of that happening.

In my thinking, that shelter has some culpability for not treating the dog with the infection on it's head and not feeding it properly and then they probably thought it would die on their watch and called the owners to get it or it would be PTS. Something wrong with that.

Every once in a while we hear about some dog so abused, injured or grossly starved that it would be an act of compassion to humanely  let it go.  Instead of that they beg for thousands of $$$ to save it's life.

About 50 miles from me is a shelter which rescued a golden that was starved and abandoned by her owners that she ate about 1/2 her tail to survive. This was almost 1.5 years ago.  At last I looked (2 months ago) she was still there, rather than adopt her out to one of the hundreds of loving homes who applied; she is still there.  Apparently she is a cash cow now.

Sad, money talks and BS walks.

Edited to add laws are on the books for a reason and if they are broken, there are consequences. No matter if you are a person or a shelter.

No one is bashing this breeder for stepping in to rescue these dogs,

   No one wants to stop them from showing the dogs, everyone 'should' wantbto stop them from breeding them.

    WHY is it that these  dogs need to be used for breeding, when first of sll, it is ethically WRONG,

Secondly, it is legally wrong.

    IT GOES TOTALLY AGAINST PUBLIC POLICY AS IT PERTAINS TO ANIMAL RESCUE...

SM- I cannot find the 'clear' distinction on adoption of pups from animal shelters, state law is 8 weeks, unless the puppies are accustomed to being fed on their own.

    So, seems they can't have it both ways, either this woman Dawn was properly caring for these pups, and feeding and watering twice daily, or she wasn't, which is it?

    The law also states even under owner surrender, dogs cannot be adopted for five days.

EVERY DOG that comes through the SHELTER ,"MUST BE VACCINATED FOR RABIES, Wonder if they did that?

This is just wrong, sets a very poor example for rescue.

I have rescued several dogs, wouldn 't dream of breeding them, neither should these people.

Usually, if someone wants to add a dog to their breeding program, they buy it.

I completely agree with what you said.

Hundreds, maybe thousands of dogs and cats are euthed every day for want of a home or if they don't get euthed they languish in cages for a long time. Yet, shelters turn away lots of homes due to their horribly intrusive questionaires. Certainly there should be questions but, my God, do they need to know your entire biography?

Last time I went to a shelter i was completely turned off.  The manager apparently let the power go to her head and she was yelling at volunteers for not cleaning out a sink in front of all the people coming to look for a potential pet. Being the outspoken old gal that I am, I would have told her GFY and let her clean out her darn sink. That is unacceptible.
 

GSDoldtimerlady, no difference in Germany. In my opinion some people involved in animal welfare only do this job, because they want to feel better than the rest of the world, but they don´t really understand the belongings of dogs....

Back to the current case - In this case ( at least in my opinion ) people tried everything to find new homes for the dogs as fast as possible.
They were able to do so, because there was a lot of publicity in the German Shepherd dog world, and because the president ( ? ) of the shelter is a German Shepherd breeder by herself, so she knew about the breed, and she had connections to people involved in this breed - just perfect for finding homes fast.

Kitkat, I don´t know why, but you are searching for faults.

• "Rabies vaccination" - the dogs DV took to shows or to the club had to be vaccinated, so why should at least these dogs get shots once more?
• " Dogs cannot be adopted for five days " Is there any proof of an adoption earlier, or was it just fostering ( big difference legally ).
• "Adopting out puppies younger than 8 weeks" - is there any proof? Even if they did so, there is a legal loophole :"...unless the puppies are accustomed to being fed on their own."
• Spay/neuter - a lot of loopholes in there, too. I had problems reading this text, my question, what would you say, if they spayed just 6 months old puppies? Seems to be law...

I shouldn´t even care, this mess is far away from me, and believe me, we do have our own messes over here...
Maybe I´m that touched, because I love this breed, and putting dogs in cages, refusing them a livable life, only because someone wants to win some ribbons, and make money out of them, just drives me crazy.

MY BOTTOM LINE IS THIS...These dogs should not be able to be bred....

If the rescuers want to feel good for their efforts, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BREED THE DOGS...

LOOPHOLES, I find it disgusting that the laws EVERYONE ELSE AND EVERY DOG  has to abide by in this state, that go thru animal shelters, rescues, etc., are being totally ignored.

    I think the way the entire thing was handled, "SUCKS", and it does open the door for other recues to follow.

I  am looking for a way for that Perez ass, to get removed from his job.

Everytime someones rights get violated and ignored, it's one more of my rights that get left unprotected.

WHERE DOES IT END????

I happen to like living in the US, I like that there is certain procedures that  are 'supposed to be ' followed BEFORE the government can take my shit.

If something were to happen to me, where lets even say I end up dead, because I laid here dead a few days, and someone reports my dogs left alone,

 Should the f'ing dog pound be able to come in and take them, adopt them out before my family could get them?

    Different, but the same.

To susie:

Maybe the reason this thing has such a stench about it is that the president/ whatever she is is a breeder so she knew  what the dogs were worth and she set someone up with a really sweet deal. A show/ breeding dog for free with papers.

Cronyism stinks whether it is a president of a country or a president of an animal shelter.

Kitkat, your scenario is not "different, but the same", and you know that.

Animals are "objects", after your death  your heirs get all your possessions including your objects. Uncle Sam is legally bound to look for them. They´d either sit in a shelter or in a foster home waiting for your family.

In DV´s case the dogs SHE owned were transferred to the law, they are free for adoption.
The dogs she did not own are part of a court case and have to wait either in the shelter or in foster homes until ownership was verified by court.