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by Sunsilver on 03 November 2018 - 17:11
Nans, it isn’t fair to talk about deaths of puppies if there aren’t actually any deaths. I don’t see where there is proof of that in any of these pages in this thread.
Seriously?? Go back and read the very first post!
by Nans gsd on 03 November 2018 - 18:11
Wished I could feed raw but neither of mine can take it.

by Rik on 03 November 2018 - 23:11
put them under a microscope, still looked like hair. can't swear, but have never used anything from this company since.
IMO, dog food companies are in the business of making money. the advertising and love they have for your dog is hype.
pay attention to your dog, how much goes in the front end and how much exits the back end.
that will tell you more about ingredients than the label (though not about contaminants).
JMO,
Rik

by Prager on 04 November 2018 - 01:11
All this discussion is about Sh1t. Super expansive, chrome plated, unadulterated, well marketed by lies, sh1t in shiny bags. I tell people if you think it is good to eat, then you eat it. If you put granulated dog food next to a meat in the sun then you will find out that not even maggots want to eat even the "best" granulated dog food. So I ask,... why to feed it to my dogs which I love? I'll feed meat. It is better and cheaper and it is perfectly balanced by Nature. There are no tumors, preservatives, colorings, MSG and other taste enhancers, no sick and such animals and down cows and road kill in it, nor chemicals used for anesthesia of dogs and cats which then your dog yeats. On top of it, the nutrition is not cooked out of raw meat to death. .
JMO.

by Sunsilver on 04 November 2018 - 08:11
Not true, Prager. I've had dog food that was infested with worms.

by Hundmutter on 04 November 2018 - 08:11
by Hoytn on 04 November 2018 - 12:11
by joanro on 04 November 2018 - 13:11
. On top of it, the nutrition is not cooked out of raw meat to death. .
Me: Ok, then you eat the chicken leg quarters without cooking it, if it's so good to eat!
Btw, meat alone is not ballanced nutrition for a dog.
The kibble I feed does not have coloring, nor MSG, nor euthinized domestic animals, nor road kill.....it's exactly what keeps my dogs in beautiful condition and in good health and full of energy!!
PS, and I don't need to worry about a chicken bone perforating their intestine nor punching a hole in the esophogus and working it's way out through the skin in the form of an abscess as did happen to one of my gsd females ....that's when I was feeding raw ...the whole time trying to keep my dogs fat enough and their coats from being dried out and picking up dog crap from one that would bite twice and swallow, that had long bones split in half and clinking in the scoop and when I saw every pile from him full of splintered bones, the thought occurred to me that it is only a matter of time before those bones punch through his intestines.

by Sunsilver on 04 November 2018 - 14:11
Joan, if you've ever wondered why I don't feed raw, well, you just answered that for yourself!
We nearly lost a much-loved cat to a bird bone that had punctured its gut. I've heard of dogs choking to death on turkey necks, getting bones stuck in their mouths, esophagus or elsewhere in their G.I. tract. Then there's the e-friend whose Cardigan Welsh corgi needed $3000 worth of dental work after splitting a couple of teeth on raw, meaty bones!
I worked for a vet for awhile back in the 1970's and we had a dog with a stuck bone in the clinic. Took about 5 days and several thousand dollars worth of treatment (x-rays, laxatives, ect.) to get the dog to pass the bone without surgery. Surgery would have cost even MORE!
I don't need that sort of expense, and am not going to risk it! Also, it is really hard to feed raw and travel, and now I've reached a [cough] certain age, I hope to be doing more of that! Oh, and I think the customs folk take a dim view of letting raw meat across the border...
by joanro on 04 November 2018 - 14:11
And I forgot to mention having to pry a lodged bone from the roof of the mouth, wedged between the molars and pressing into the soft pallet and causing an infection in the gums.
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