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by DesertRangers on 13 January 2007 - 03:01

Not a wise statement to say never!

by realcold on 13 January 2007 - 04:01

Did it right and had both helpers down for the count. Did my own and sucked the big one for the three. Totaly screewed the dog up. 3 Titles in 8 weeks didn't help also.

by realcold on 13 January 2007 - 04:01

Sorry DR didnot see your post. I will still say if you work them right never do your own HELPER WORK.

by realcold on 13 January 2007 - 04:01

Sorry DR didnot see your post. I will still say if you work them right never do your own HELPER WORK.

by DesertRangers on 13 January 2007 - 14:01

OK..I am was confused on where the posts where leading. No problem. I agree and also would never allow my dog to take a bite on me. IMO you either geta dog that is equipment trained or worse yet one that does not mind biting his owner. lol

by BabyEagle4U on 13 January 2007 - 17:01

..what's wrong with "equipment trained" ? And what do you mean equipment trained anyhow ... maybe your "idea" is different than mine. What do you concider "equipment" ?

by Shelley Strohl on 13 January 2007 - 22:01

What you get working your own dog in protection is (drum-roll please) CONFLICT.

by DesertRangers on 13 January 2007 - 23:01

Babyeagle.. I call equipment trained is when the dog "alerts" on the sleeve or bitesuit not on the person. For example if you were walking down the street and someone came threatening in your direction the dog would not alert. Most dogs learn real quickly the routine whatever it is.. Going to training field, ride in vehicle, putting on harness etc.. Same way when I trained my dogs in tracking, they knew it was party time! They would jump into the back of my truck and go in their crate waiting on me. That's why I always found new areas to work in.

by DesertRangers on 13 January 2007 - 23:01

I just remembered..had a friend with a trained protection dog and she wanted me to act like I was attacking her to see what her male would do.... We got on opposite sides of a chain link fence and I had a stick and started acting like I was going to attack her. Her male stood and watched for a long time not knowing what to do since I did not have a sleeve on. We worked for awhile and I got real aggressive and finally got him to go for me. He was not on the training field, no harness, and I did not on on a sleeve or bite suit. He was confused and took him awhile to figure out what to do. He was a good dog with strong nerves, just needed to understand it was ok to work with the equipment. hope that helps on my definitation

by Get A Real Dog on 13 January 2007 - 23:01

You can absolutly do decoy work for your own dog, as long at is strickly a game in prey. People in French Ring and Mondio Ring do it all the time. The question is if the handler is really a decoy that can read a dog, identify drives, and know how to work a dog. It is a different picture on the other end of the leash I do the decoy work for my dog and my girlfriends dog. They are young and it is purely a game. All fun, all prey. When it is time to get serious, I will call on my friends. It is only a conflict if you do not work the dog correctly. You do not work fight, defense, or real type scenarios with a dog you live with, then it is a conflict.

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