Liver and Blue German Shepherds - Page 4

 

 

Guess the photo didn't post. Sorry.

Seems to me that if the public likes the liver color, the breeders should be doing what they can to perpetuate the color. 

I love the liver color but have never been able to find one.

Blindly following that which is determined to be "faults" , rather than changing the standards when those alleged "faults" turn out to be based on nothing more than superstition, is frankly stupid.


so.....  bring on the livers!

Mirasmom
You look younger than i picured you to be, Very nice photo
Why bring up an old thread again, over two years old i do not see the point in it, and the posts on colour of the German Shepherd Dog sure does  get the colour RED flashing in some peoples eyes when the colour Blue or Liver is mentioned

Steve

I am a breeder of the most incredible dogs on earth, the German Shepherd. I am a responsible breeder of straight backed, sound in both mind and body. I love my dogs as a mother loves her kids, and know my puppy owners do as well......NEVER would I intentionally breed for someone's misery, or even inconvenience by passing on known faults.!   YES... and I have a blue and a liver!   My blue is a "powder", very dillute, free of alopecia or any  defect other than passing a dew claw or two, and absolutely drop dead gorgeous. I also have a stunning liver and tan female that is not only brilliant, but is also free of defects.
I appreciate lovedemdogs' approach to the subject. I am new to this forum and will try to post the pictures of them.

To see,  extensive photos of both blues, pandas and livers, solid, coated, etc, go to http://www.k9-pines.com/.
Melisa is doing a great job with the color dogs, as is Dawn at   http://www.geocities.com/angelicshepherds/
I aquired my liver from k9pines and have a 4 month old black and female from Dawn that carries for both liver and blue that  I would stack against any geman shepherd anwhere.

Education is truly the key here. There are  tons of genetic defects passed by all breeds, regardless of color. To recognize and do our best to weed out what we find to be a true  genetic health problems, instead if blanketing a whole subject such as color with out understanding it and calling it a defect is just ignorant and allowing "a few" powers that "be" use their opinions to determine what is acceptable in a "breed standard".

I apologize if I sound combative on the subject, I don't mean to, we all have our opinions on confirmation and everything else concerning these magnificent dogs. I hope we can all agree though that what is important is the wellbeing of the german shepherd in general. There are breeders out there of "acceptable breed standard" pigmentation knowingly passing horrific true genetic health defects.

 News flash...the public doesn't get to make up the breed, that has already been done, end of story! There is a HUGE difference between responcibly homing (limited or no reg and neutered/spayed) the occassional blue or sable that will pop up and purposfully breeding for those colors.

But it is happening anyway, and all I can say is SO WHAT? If the dog is healthy SO WHAT? No one can stop change from happening, it is the nature of the world. They'll just be forced to start calling themselves a different name.

Bou mom, your dogs ARE BEAUTIFUL GERMAN SHEPHERDS!

I personally would prefer to see more breeders of these colors start doing more health tests on their breeding stock.  I don't care about what color they choose to breed as long as the dogs are healthy and good representatives of the breeding in regards to looks and temperament...  not OFA'ing and not doing a CDA test is not being reputable.  breeding dogs whose ears do not stand well or have other major faults(color should be a minor fault)  is not being reputable either.  dogs should not be bred for color alone, if you want to breed these colors, fine, but don't base breeding decisions solely on the dogs color or how quickly you can create a new color (such as the new panda craze and the fawns(isabella)) breed for the total dog, color is just the icing on the cake

The public likes hypoallergenic designer mutts, how about them shepadoodles? The public also LOVES itty bitty pocket dogs, lets start breeding toy GSDs.  Gag me. 

Uberland- if these rare color people are serious, in addition to all necessary health tests they also need to start TITLING their dogs. But it will never happen, because these people don't give a damn about the preservation of the GSD, only the ego of their dog having puppies and the couple bucks it brings. You can tell me until you are as blue as your dog how much you care about the breed. Have you ever set foot on a working field or ring of ANY kind?  A "breeding" dogs qualifications, or lack thereof, says it all.

Uberland also makes a good point about the ears and other faults. Do you people understand that you are not being attacked for color alone? People are up in arms because you are spitting on the standard.  It's no different that if you were breeding dogs with very bad structure, terrible nerves, poor health, or grotesque dental faults.

So I just looked at that site: even if all those dog were correct colors they would be atrocious. bou mom, it's clear you love the GSD. You owe it to yourself to learn a lot more about what makes a good one.