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Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 19 April 2011 - 14:04

"And yes, usually raw food feeders do a lot of research."

Searching for information to support a specific conclusion is not research.

"I think it's very unfortunate that so many people, especially in North America are so unsure about food preparation. Which is surely linked to the masses of obese people, but that's another story."

Actually, it's not...lots of raw feeders are themselves obese; does this support their "research" on nutrition or detract from it?

"I have worked for different veterinary hospitals and all "my" vets recommended and still do recommend raw food. They have not seen a dog/wild dog/wolf that cooked their food yet."

Have they seen one worm or vaccinate himself?

by brynjulf on 19 April 2011 - 15:04

Hmm. Interesting opinion  Keith.  I disagree wholeheartedly of course.  ( I feed both raw or kibble depending on the dog so no one can accuse me of trying to change the minds of one side or another)  But I totally disagree that raw feeders are searching for information to support a specific conclusion.  While they themselves do not have testing facilities (unless they are breeders lol)  the information used to sway them to feed raw in the first place is from animal nutritionists, Vets etc. There are those who feed raw 'cuz their breeder told them to".  I find raw feeders in general to be educated and informed dog owners. But then there is the guy who thinks he feeds raw because he feeds his min pin a weiner a day. ( he boards with me..yes the weiner is a true story who could make that up...) my point is most people do not feed raw on a whim.  They research like crazy, often hem and haw and then take the plung. 

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 19 April 2011 - 15:04

So the wild claims that invariably accompany this dialog are the result of painstaking research?


by HighDesertGSD on 19 April 2011 - 16:04

"The idea of eating products that are stored forever is maybe not such a good idea.If you only prepare fresh food, you have to worry less about bacteria, depending on which climate zone you live."

I cannot agree with this statement.


Stored food can have very low bacteria count. It depends on the preservative and the climate (more than for fresh food). Vitamin E is not a potent preservative and so food preserved with it should be used within a couple of months. My area is very dry and food stays fresh for longer.

It is fresh food that is less dependent on climate. You do the same for all climate.

by beetree on 19 April 2011 - 16:04

Well, all I can say is as soon as any one of you picks up a staph infection you'll be clamoring for antibiotics. I happened to pick up a freak infection from gardening! And consider myself a healthy, mostly organic eating kind of gal. My Dr. didn't mess around either, gave me CIPRO right off the bat. Haven't you guys heard of flesh eating bacteria? Especially be careful in locker rooms, too! An athlete in CT lost many limbs to this.

ggturner

by ggturner on 19 April 2011 - 17:04

Very true Beetree.  I guess you and I are among the few on this thread who are sticking to its original intent, to make people aware of the risk of bacterial infection associated with handling raw meat.  I did not start this thread to rehash the raw vs kibble debate, nor whether or not raw feeders do their research!  It really bothers me that raw feeders cannot take some information meant to help them without turning it into a defensive debate on how great raw is and how great they are for researching it!

LadyFrost

by LadyFrost on 19 April 2011 - 17:04

thanks for info..but lately its been more like a conversion in progress and I am not even a 100% feeder I do 1/2 raw and 1/2 dog food...and is it worse than the Poo eating dogs that are also mentioned/posted here, or the ones that chew through kennels and some that drink water from puddles infested with mosquitos eggs and other larva...hmm....raw defrosted meat...poop, puddles, lakes, rivers, dirt, grass.......hmmm....hmmm....well while i think about it....my dogs do have to eat. :)

This argument is old and the way i see it ....lies, lies, lies and statistics....let raw feeders feed raw, let dog food feeders feed dog food....if i raw feeder posts that "omg, raw food poisoned my dog" I guarantee you more people will read it than "I feed dog food all my life, but here is important information on something i know nothing about except from online, or magazines..this may apply to you raw feeders..since i am not one of you..i am the smart one, please follow me and my wisdom"...
Anyways....its Monday.....all over again








TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 19 April 2011 - 18:04

Nice pics, Lady Frost!
Well, the initial post was not about if raw feeding is the best thing to do, but rather that studies show that raw food preparation holds risks. With anything raw, no matter if vegetables, meat or dairy preparation and storage are  a concern and most raw food feeders know this.
There are different opinions and thats what this message board are for, some get more excited than others.
However, the most important thing is that dog owners are comfortable with what they are feeding, no matter if it is raw, kibble or a mix, and I agree with Lady Frost. Many dry food feeders also do their research (as is comparing cons and pros and come to a conclusion - if you need a definition of research) and feed premium dry food. Raw food feeders do exactly this and it is a little more difficult to buy good raw food, as it is not available in all pet stores.I'm sure that some breeders don't have the possibility to store and prepare lots of raw meat and use other options available in their area and still produce healthy puppies. I don't argue, I know what's best for my dogs.





 


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