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yoshy

by yoshy on 11 August 2010 - 00:08

Well with this being second hand information and not knowing the trainer its difficult to make assumptions but however.


From what you are saying about your dog not welcoming strangers or tolerating there presence obviously is an issue.
However the trainer may have just wanted to take the dog away from you to test A) his threshold and B) to find the source of the undesired aggression. Many times an owner will create these issues in many ways. Also by separating you and your dog and testing it allows the trainer to see if the issues derive from you- whether it be the dog resource guarding you, your anxiety leading into situations, etc....... Personally i dont take issue with what was done from your OP however the only thing i would not condone would be threatening pressure/contact such as the shoving/nudging you mentioned. But once again none of us were there to see what you mean. So its difficult to say.

I think the trainer should have explained their reasonings to you for what was conducted. It sounds since you said it was 1st day it was simply to evaluate the dog and reassure the source of the unwanted behavior.

I wouldnt fret it however i would talk with the trainer and re-assure them that they must explain the reasonings to you behind every action taken!!! there must be an open line of communication between handler and trainer to ensure you and your dog walk away confident with the information you need as well as trusting your trainer. If that breaks you will get nowhere!


On a second note:

Many people want their dogs to be playmate with everyone and everything. I personally do not care if my dogs like people or other animals. However they MUST tolerate there presence! You dont like every person you meet so why should a dog? or dog to dog?  remember obedience doesn't stop at the field. It is absolute 100% of the time! in any situation regardless of distraction, location, etc..... 99.9% of behavioral issues can be solved/managed through obedience! It is up to you to manage your dog! and you do this through structure and obedience! Its that simple.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 11 August 2010 - 14:08


         Dedicated to all the good people who helped me and Prince by posting on this thread....We get by ,so much better with a little help from our friends....           ( not the original , but very cute)

                                                                                                    Thanks..Deanna and Prince...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOK4Qmr5by0

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 11 August 2010 - 15:08

Bump...

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 11 August 2010 - 15:08

         Dedicated to all the good people who helped me and Prince by posting on this thread....We get by ,so much better with a little help from our friends.... ( not the original , but very cute)

                                                                                                                                    Thanks..Deanna and Prince...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOK4Qmr5by0

ShadyLady

by ShadyLady on 11 August 2010 - 23:08

It's your dog, dammit. If you aren't handling, then you aren't learning. You need to ask questions. If you don't feel comfortable asking questions because people intimidate you, speak up.... or if your questions aren't getting answered, then move on to a different club.

I don't see what was accomplished by what they did with him. They could easily have had someone near you while you were handling, coaching you, if you weren't getting results. Besides, things will always go more slowly when you are learning and training the dog at the same time. Smaller steps.

There is no need sacrificing your dog's trust to do experiments like this. Why would they want to add to any anxiety or insecurity your dog had?


by zdog on 12 August 2010 - 03:08

 because sometimes the stress is coming from the handler, duh.  Lots can be learned by letting someone else take the leash for a few minutes and walking a dog around.  it can tell you about what may be going on at home with the dog, it can tell you about the relationship with the handler, it can tell you about nerves, temp, etc of the dog and you can compare it to how it acts with the handler.  You can more accurately pinpoint the source of aggression by doing this simple little test and doing this simple test can also help an uneasy dog be a bit uncomfortable and end up having a calming easy experience and positive experience.  

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 12 August 2010 - 06:08

You have no business taking someone else's dog.  Keep that up and let us know how many stitches you get.

vomgrobersee

by vomgrobersee on 12 August 2010 - 10:08




ShadyLady

by ShadyLady on 12 August 2010 - 12:08

Ruger1, is the trainer that took your dog away with the other person to do their experiement, the same trainer who wanted you to move the crate in the house?

by zdog on 12 August 2010 - 13:08

I"ll keep you updated on my stitches.  no problem.  I'd be willing to bet the overwhelming majority of dogs on just this board have been handled, walked on a leash, fed, lived with, etc another person other than yourself at one time and nobody got bitten.





 


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