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by Krazy Bout K9s on 13 January 2010 - 23:01
Breeder said she completed a Comphrehensive Trailing course, when she was about 8 months old, per a "certificate" in her file...Steph
by LAVK-9 on 14 January 2010 - 02:01
Well Steph she looks like a female I use to have.If i didn't have the one i am trying to find a place for I would take her off your hands.Probably a good thing that i don't have more room or I would have my friend grab her when he is up there and bring her down.
Thinking of some things that might be able to help you.I will email you if it is able to happen.
by Border11 on 14 January 2010 - 18:01
Hello;Folks
Just for the Record I know most of you know their is always
2 sides of a story ....and then we say theirs the Truth! Steph Obviously cares
greatly about Rescuing dogs from Death or bad homes and I commend her for that.
However, after researching this Topic I see something that wasn't
mentioned In the Threads I have read. The owner of the Dog is Rimrock Shepherds Kennel
and they still have the Dog at least they say they do, but have called many rescue's and shelter's
looking to get her adopted.
So first of all this Dog was sold to a breeder at 8 weeks of age and then came
back to the Sapphire when the dog was 2yrs to have her breed and had beautiful pups which were
sold or placed. Then after that they spayed the dog and wanted to find her a new home, but they
still have her until they get her placed. First of all .....this changes things drastically a True Breeder
should know better then this ( I have also found out that Rimrock never asked Sapphire to take
the dog back , but Shapphire was contacted by steph to do so. Its my belief if Rimrock
shepherds kennel is responsible they should take full responsibility for this dog and making sure
it gets placed properly (which it seems like they are doing) but calling rescue's and Shelters is not the
way to do it . theirs many people on this Site that know how to find her a good loving home without
forcing Rescue to hurry up and try to save her efforts.
I think we have 2 people whom have had issue's in the Past that live in the same state
their both good at what they do. I believe.... but past conflicts may make them disgruntle towards one another
its my belief that Rimrock shepherds will do the right thing and Steph will not get another dog slammed on her.
It is also my Belief that Shappire shepherds has also asked several of their clients and potential clients if
they would like to adopt this dog.........The doesn't mean that after 4 years and a litter of Pups that Shappire
should take the Dog back from another Breeder whom has obviously changed their minds.
Most people whom own a dog for over a year and are real dog lovers would never give their dogs
away . Although, breeders do this and often the dog get caught in between, Breeders must be responsible for
their actions and the placement of unwanted dogs and when their responsible it takes the burden of society
and makes us all look better. Just last week their was a Beautiful Black 8yr old K-9 dog that was wanted
for adoption by about 8 people or so.......The handler a K-9 cop was professional and made sure the Dog got
a good home he didn't call a rescue he reached out to good people here and in his area. Thankfully; this
Dog is going to a good home. So folks lets not jump to conclusions until we have heard or know the whole story.
("The Truth") along with walking in our Fellow Man's own shoe's a little bit longer. Lets try to get along and lets all be more
courteous to each other;.... lif
by Mystere on 14 January 2010 - 19:01
I really don't care that specific breeders and Steph may not "get along." It is completely immaterial to the issue of dogs in need of homes. Or, are you referring to the fact that Steph's rescue efforts end up being "clean ups" of those breeders' irresponsibilities?
This thread began on December 19, 2009--nearly a MONTH ago. Yet, you have "belief that Rimrock shepherds will do the right thing and Steph will not get another dog slammed on her." Well, exactly WHEN is that going to happen, given that WEEKS have now gone by? Is Rimrock still "calling rescues and shelters"? Is that what you mean by doing "the right thing"?
quote:"It is also my Belief that Shappire shepherds has also asked several of their clients and potential clients if
they would like to adopt this dog.........The doesn't mean that after 4 years and a litter of Pups that Shappire
should take the Dog back from another Breeder whom [sic] has obviously changed their minds"
Yes, in fact that is precisely what a breeder is expected to do. If a breeder is not prepared to do precisely that for each and every dog they produce and sell, quite simply, they should not breed. There is certainly no biological imperative to do so.
Steph,
I am still waiting for an address.
by VomMarischal on 14 January 2010 - 19:01
by Border11 on 14 January 2010 - 20:01
Mystere;
I think your missing my point cause your getting very worked up. Yes this is
an issue But Steph doesn't have the Dog its still with Rimrock Shepherds Kennels an as I said Rimrock Never Called
Shappire to take back the Dog. Yes; I think with all of this said Rimrock realizes they better do the
right thing and make sure they get the Dog to a new home and not pawn the dog off to a Rescue or
someone whom isn't really able to care for the Dog. (also you state most breeder 's have a right of
1st refusal in the contract...so I take it that means not all? Remember again Rimrock Never contacted Shappire
about taking the dog Back.......also do you think a judge seeing this contract would make shappire
take the Dog Back?? I think Not..Your speaking about something you believe is inherent to being a Breeder
and it maybe at heart.... But this would'nt stand up in any court after 4 years. )
Steph .... again doesn't have the Dog but she's trying to help ...we can make a different
thread and work to get this dog a great home without Bashing each other and acting out as this accomplishes
nothing for the Dog eitheir. If we try to work together we can really help this dog and venting isn't going to help
anyone in this matter. obviously , some people agree with you and some people agree with me look at what
Vommarshial wrote in Next Thread. But thats not doing any of us any good in solving the real problem here.
Lets stop the Name calling and Chest Pounding and Get this Dog a great Home. then we can say we did something
that Really counts I'am Working on it Now! PLease Mystere Lets turn a Bad situation into a Good One.
I'am Not Looking to Post here to make problems I'am looking to help the Animals I love and If I can help
1-2 or more....then its worth Being here otherwise we are just spinning "the Wheels".
Lets get working to
find this dog a new
Home
and Stop Yapping!
by Krazy Bout K9s on 14 January 2010 - 21:01
Border you are so wrong about ALL of this,,,I DO HAVE THE DOG SHE IS AT MY HOUSE.SEE PHOTOS ABOVE, this is in my front yard!!!!,...
RIMROCK BOUGHT THE DOG FROM SAPPHIRE WHEN THE DOG WAS 1 YR OLD!!!! THEY THEN SENT HER BACK TO THE BREEDER AT 2 YRS OLD WHO BRED THE DOG TO THEIR LARY BRET- BETT BLACK STUD. RIMROCK SOLD THE PUPS GOT ONE RETURNED WHO ALSO ENDED UP IN RESCUE.
WHEN I WAS CONTACTED ABOUT TAKING HER IN I DIDN'T HAVE ROOM FOR ANOTHER BITCH FEMALE SO TRIED TO GET EXPOSURE ON HER AS SOON AS I HEARD ABOUT HER, THEY DID TRY TO CONTACT THE BREEDER, I CALLED THE BREEDER THE DAY I HEARD ABOUT HER AND GOT SLAMMED ON THE PHONE FOR THE SECOND TIME FROM THIS BREEDER SAPPHIRE, who I called previously for a 9-10 month old puppy a year or two ago, WHO IS CLAIMING TO HAVE 4 MORE LITTERS COMING THIS YEAR....
I DO HAVE THE DOG IN MY POSSESSION AND HAVE HAD HER FOR ABOUT A WEEK NOW...SAPPHIRE ORIGINAL BREEDER, WOULDN'T TAKE HER BACK BECAUSE SHE WAS SPAYED, NO GOOD TO HER THEN.
RIMROCK IS NOT A REAL BREEDER, THEY ARE AN OLDER COUPLE THE MAN NOT IN GOOD HEALTH EITHER, THE MAN OF THE FAMILY WANTED A GSD, thinking to breed and make money form them, since this breeder asked so much money for their pups, THE WIFE DID NOT EVER WANT THE DOG, SHE TOLD US THAT WHEN SHE DROPPED THE DOG OFF AT A MEETING POINT. SHE WOULD NOT ALLOW THE DOG IN THE HOUSE, SO IT STAYED OUTSIDE IN A KENNEL FAR FROM THE HOUSE.
I BELIEVE A SON KEPT ONE OF THE PUPS...
Border get your facts straight before you go telling stories. Steph
by Krazy Bout K9s on 14 January 2010 - 21:01
Sorry BACK YARD, here is another of her at my BACK DOOR!!!! Which is a muddy mess right now because all the snow melted and I have a pond in the back that they like to swim in then roll around in the muddy dirty garden, then jump on my not so clean doors now....and I don't have porch decks on yet...I DO HAVE THIS DOG THAT WAS FROM SAPPHIRE KENNELS IN MY HOME!!!!
SEEING AS HOW YOU JUST JOINED, YOU MUST BE FROM SAPPHIRE OR MAYBE BOUGHT ONE OF MIRA'S PUPPIES???? STEPH
by VomMarischal on 14 January 2010 - 21:01
by Mystere on 14 January 2010 - 21:01
quote by Border11: "Mystere; [sic]
I think your [sic] missing my point cause [sic] your [sic] getting very worked up. Yes this is
an issue But [sic] Steph doesn't have the Dog [sic] its [sic] still with Rimrock Shepherds Kennels ..."
(Whoever the hell you actually are). I got your point, loudly and clearly. However, your point was a complete lie, wasn't it? Your very poor grammar may make it difficult for people to understand any point you may try to make, but we can get through such issues here, and understood you quite clearly.
It appears that YOU are the one who did not have the facts, even the most basic, such as the dog's location. Why? Can you explain why, after your "research" that you repeatedly made such an inaccurate statement regarding the dog's location?
Did you come on here simply to stir crap by implying that this is all just an interpersonal conflict or personality conflict involving Steph? Clearly, YOU are the one with the problem, not Steph. So, take your little agenda elsewhere.
The only "yapping" being done here is by you.
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