My 6 year old just collapsed and died! - Page 4

I am so sorry, this is so tramatic for you. We give our dogs the best food, vet care, and a really good home with lots of love. I hope this helps to remember there are things happen that are out of our hands and our dogs will be waiting for us when it is our time to be with them again. We have all been where you are today and we will hold your shoulders up while you heal.
Always,
Cee

So sorry for your loss... it's always heartbreaking, even more so when it's a youngster like yours.  I lost my Fawn to tortion despite surgery.  She passed on the table (I was assisting) and we both just stood there in shock as the surgery had been completed when she just stopped breathing!  *sigh* 

MYSTERE....The American dog who died young, and had MANY progeny who passed from Toxic Gut Syndrome was GV Scorpio of Shiloh Gardens (Son of GV Mannix) .  He produced very popular and beautiful moving dogs, but there were a lot who died by the time  they were 3-4 years from Toxic Gut, Bowel Intersuseption and tortion.  Many had been used before it was known. Those who survived went on to do a great deal of winning. GVX Charo, Sel Ch Augie, GV Winchester and brother Watson, Steel Curtain, Sel Tatta Two,  and the most beautiful moving dog I personally watched Ch. Lolita.  If you look @ reverse line breeding on his name you'll see many now famous dogs...

I can barely see for the tears in my eyes reading these sad stories.  My heart goes out to all of you.  Our beloved pets leave us all too soon.  I am so sorry for your losses.

 my deepest sympathy.i too lost my beloved sable girl *ali* to bowel torsion late 2001. she had been perfectly normal all day then suddenly took to her bed,i knew it was a torsion of some sort and called the emergency vets to say i was on my way,10 minutes into journey she stopped responding to me and was in shock on arrival,the vet team took over straight away and after form signing they sent me home.only home 10 mins when they called to say that they reckoned it was a pyometra and were going in to operate .only half an hour had passed when i got the dreaded call to say that they had opened her up to find that her whole intestines had twisted top and bottom  and unfortuately there was no tissue alive to attempt a re-section so the only option i had was to put to sleep.gutted was an understatement.................she was 2yrs 7mths...............her son died from the same at the age of 17mths and i lost her daughter *joeline* 2007 to a strange stomach torsion -strange because i had got her to vet in jig time and was there when she was opened up,both myself and vet agreed that everything looked well and he sent me home saying he would call me when he was finished and because she would be in overnight at least,i just got home and no more when he called to say that he'd put her to sleep.i was gobsmacked.he explained that when he turned her stomach to place back into original position he found that the hidden part of her stomach was dead due to a blood clot and that it was a godsend that she'd torsioned in the first place as the clot would have been harder to diagnose with a far longer period of illness and same end result.i have spoken to all my vets about this and have very little info on the torsion subject itself but all have agreed that it must have a genetic connection of some sort.has anyone else had similar problems with related dogs?                                      .

Was that GV Sukee's Mannix? Born 1983? jh

If memory serves me I believe you are referring to "Stuttgarts Sundance Kid"

I just found this dog several generations back in my current girl's pedigree. (I thought it sounded familiar)  Now I'm worried about her.  We feed her wet and keep her quiet prior to and after eating.  I will start adding yogurt to her diet as well.  Any other suggestions?  I have no way of knowing if any of the dogs between Echo & Sundance died of Toxic Gut, if any.  Does anyone have any info on that line?  We have always been concerned about this condition but never really had it brought home like this thread has done.

Deb

I found this link and thought it might be helpful.

http://www.drkruger.com/canine-toxic-gut-syndrome-article.htm

My sincere condolences for your loss. I feel your pain, I lost one of my males in Feb this year due to a torsion. He was a German show line dog. I still miss him deeply even though I have other dogs. He would of been 5 in September. I really wish they could find a definite answer to what causes this terrible thing in our breed.
My thoughts are with you and others who have also lost their dogs to torsion.

T

Had to wait to wipe the tears from eyes to post.

I'm so sorry for the sudden loss of your girl. We've (unfortunately) all been there and the pain is terrible. That is one of the most insidious (and hard to diagnose) forms of torsion. Rest assured, you did all you could do for your girl. My deepest sympathy on your loss.