Why did Balko V27 Bszs 08 fail his bite at 2009 Irish Sieger show? - Page 4

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by TessJ10 on 07 April 2009 - 18:04

snajper, nobody made the comparison of one event to another. 

noddi, honestly, your post made no sense at all.

Among other things, what does "running around in circles" have to do with the courage test?  Ill dog?  First, a good dog would have to be pretty ill, like at death's door, to still not TRY.  So that, too, is no excuse.  Besides, illness of the dog certainly is ruled out by Sue Worley's own post.

 


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 April 2009 - 18:04

"There was a dog at WUSV who at the first blind simply ran off the field."

It sounds like it ;)

by workingdawg on 07 April 2009 - 19:04

about dogs running straight off the field. some people warm up their dogs before they go straight onto the field. so sometimes, not always, a trainer will over stimulate their dogs and when the handler sends the dog, he/she will run straight back to the place the helper last was, off the field.

A couple of years ago a person from a different club did just that at our trial. The dog was very nice, just over stimulated, and ran directly off the field to get a bite. when there was no bite the dog quickly returned and tried to finish the routine by going directly to the find blind. There was noting wrong with the dog other than poor control training.

 


by Scales of justice on 07 April 2009 - 19:04

Lol...all these excuses are laughable, Lecter is at least telling it as it is, the dog failed because he is simply not right in the head, at the german sieger show in 2007 the same dog Balko nearly shit himself when the helper came out of the hide and ran in a wide circle barking at the helper looking back at his trainer, now bear in mind he hadnt travelled he was in germany, he was with his trainer and owner and had every circumstance in his favour and he happen to be wide awake also which scuppers simon82's earlier excuse, sometimes people need to face up to reality and stop hiding behind excuses for dogs just cos they come from germany,why else would these dogs be so easily let leave germany, the one thing the german breeders are not is stupid, think about it, we wll know it but nobody has got the balls to come on here and say it,  ill applaud any import who is an honest dog in every sense of the word, there are lots out there but ill be the first to highlight a dog who in my opinion does not conform to the standard expected in both mind and body,yes in some respects the owners are complete idiots by first of all buying a dog in germany in 2007 before they see him do his bite work and then after watching him fail and bringing him back to ireland struggle ever since to try and get him right, all this at continued expense, it really beggars belief that there are people out there that stupid, but hey i bet the germans are glad to have them. 

Piotr

by TessJ10 on 07 April 2009 - 19:04

Something like that is probably what happened to the dog I saw.  The POINT was that crazy things can happen, and if it happens once, as I said in my post, it's a WTH moment for the handler and probably for the dog, too, and it obviously can (as it did at WUSV) happen to a good dog, but if it's the usual MO of the dog, then that's a problem.

snajper chooses to read this as comparing the two events as being the same thing.  The rest of you got it.

 


by karsky on 07 April 2009 - 20:04

Avoidence behaiviour plain and simple.
You could forgive a dog with only a BH doing it,but a SCH3,even a poorly trained import with a carpark title should engage the threat.even with a poor bite.
4 practice runs and all failed,?

I genuineley feel sorry for the poor dog,the post's suggest he is a nice friendly dog,perhaps thats just what he wants to be.!!!!!!! 
the owners /part owners are the ones at fault,
The dogs not up to it 4 times ?excuse after excuse,and they still continue.

titles and money first....dog second.





Mystere

by Mystere on 07 April 2009 - 23:04

bump





 


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