O/T Political Rants & Raves - Page 38

Do not take my word on it.
James Madison, who just happens to be considered as the primary author of the Constitution, once said, “With respect to the words, “general welfare,” I have always regarded them as qualified by the details of power connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution…[that] was not contemplated by the creators.”
Too complicated?Thomas Jefferson said it in simpler terms, “Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.”
 For that read: read Article 1, Section 8 of constitution.
 
Ben Franklin once told us that “The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.”
 Keep in mind that with every benefit government gives you comes price. Government has no money. Government only assumes the power to take them from us, often, at a cost not just financial but also at the cost of our freedom.
Prager (Hans) 

Here are specifically enumerated powers which congress has. Nothing more nothing less. Read it and wonder.
George Washington said, “The Constitution is the guide which I never will abandon.”

 Article1.Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
Prager Hans

Jen,

I love the pics of your dogs...They are both great.

As for me, I'm not getting into the nasty name calling, mudslinging match that's going on here.  Voices of reason are getting shouted over so that certain posters can continue to insult each other and say how little each other knows, when in fact there may be a lack of knowledge in more than one person. 

As for Ed K...I hope he gets whatever is coming to him for his actions in life, be it good or bad.  I personally have no feelings one way or the other over his death, or his life, for that matter.  I wonder how many other well-loved people died, around the world, the same day as he?  None of them are mentioned here.

RIP to all those...

Crys

Jen
Smashing Pup and you are correct in these threads are old Hat but i am forbidden to say anything which involves the USA and there politics,
But Prager i do agree with you on the point of skin colour, to some people who are raciest to them a different skin colour to there own is a disease, one which is priority and in grave need of being wiped out for good,
 Skin Colour in folk is probably the cause of more problems in this world bar none and about time people were judged on there merits and not what colour skin they have
Steve

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MaggieMae writes: What Constitutional Rights did you lose under Bush?

Lots.  How can you possibly not be aware of what's happened under Bush?  If you REALLY want to know the answer to your question, check out this link, which summarizes amendment by amendment:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/gregory/gregory10.html

The excerpt below is from a different article, widely published a few years ago.  It will also answer your question:  These are FACTS.  These are specific acts taken by the Bush administration in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States of America. 

"Following are examples of freedoms which President Bush and his fellow Republicans in Congress have already expunged (as reported by the Associated Press):

FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
That good citizens are compliant and unconcerned regarding G.W. Bush's propensity to trample constitutional freedoms bespeaks a great ignorance or a great apathy, or both.

These rights have already been lost! Whether individual Americans have been personally subjected to the resultant tyranny or not doesn't change the fact that they have already lost these freedoms! This fact, alone, should be enough for any studious lover-of-liberty to be outraged.

That good citizens are compliant and unconcerned regarding G.W. Bush's propensity to trample constitutional freedoms bespeaks a great ignorance or a great apathy, or both."

But Trace,  Obama is all about CHANGE. He has been in office for nearly 8 months. What has he changed regarding what Bush put into effect?

I'll wait, thanks


RPK

Good link Tess. I'm impressed with your choice of reference.  :o)~

How about this link ...  I know you like snopes ... http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp

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