Czech GSD's with bad hips - Page 36

I was going to say nothing to this post as i felt that it was nothing more than an attack on someone for some sort of personal reason.
I have changed my mind only because the person listed as Aadilah07
Is sending me PM's about dogs sired my Stud dog asking for hips ratings So I just decided to post them as public now that I know why 

V-1 Cesar z Jirkova Dvora.
HD/ED "a" from Isreal were I imported him from.
OFA- Good hips 

Offspring	Registration	Birthdate	Sex	HIPS	ELBOW
RAJAH Z VOM WEBERHAUS	DN16026002	Oct  9 2006	F	PRELIMINARY GOOD
ETSUKO VOM GRIMORKIE	DN22808401	Aug 18 2008	F	GS-83389E25F-NOPI	GS-EL25048F25-NOPI
BRONX VOM WINDIGEN HAFEN	DN23256504	Oct 16 2008	M	GS-83598G25M-PI	GS-EL25193M25-PI
BACCA VOM WINDIGEN HAFEN	DN23256506	Oct 16 2008	F	GS-84091G28F-VPI	GS-EL25533F28-VPI
BRIX VOM WINDIGEN HAFEN	DN23256502	Oct 16 2008	M	GS-84317G29M-VPI
CESAR VOM WINDIGEN HAFEN	DN24901103	May  6 2009	M	GS-84828G25M-PI	GS-EL26054M25-PI
AMBRA VOM PRARIEHAUS	DN27759908	Apr  7 2010	F		GS-EL27845F30-NOPI

Brix left Elbow  was Grade 1 right was normal. 
Boss vom Windigen Hafen OFA good and elbows normal Prelimbs not sure why they were never listed on OFA
Bizz vom Windigen Hafen Prelibs taken by Joann Burn Former reader for OFA- hips were Ex to Good and Elbows were Clear 
Amber vom Prariehaus Hips Moderate
Athyna vom Prairehaus was hite by a Car at 9 months old and her owner was lucky enough to save her life. 
Griff z vom Weberhaus OFA Good hips and Normal Elbow prelimbs again I am not sure why they did not post this one the site.
Falk z vom Weberhaus military home owner took prelimbs I was told they looked good by there vet but they dont care for certifications so I have not Idea as they never sent me anything
Dragon z vom Weberhaus HD/ED A normal in Germany
Honor z vom Weberhaus HD/ED Normal in germany
Gabi z vom Weberhaus HD/ED Normal in Germany
Ethal vom GrimOrkie OFA fair hips_ Drug detection dog for a Kansas Prison They sent hips to OFA as that was part of there contract but I have no idea why Elbows were not done.

Thats some info that I can offer. Most of this info was asked by the above person so here is my public responce 

Also Darka Jipo Me- HD/ED a Normal in Germany  Very nice hips I might even still have the X-ray handy to post will check 
This was a great Breeding I could not have asked for better she is everything I wanted.
Frm a  Former Jinopo Stud dog Atilla  
SG- Grim z Jeniku IPO2 ( right now close to a IPO3)   HD/ED a Normal in Germany and HD/ED a in Slovakia 
Lyra Jipo-Me is 8 months old Hips and elbows will be done soon Good or bad I will let Hans Know.

I would like say that I could not be happier with Cesar in every way. He like no GSD is perfect however he has produced well for me as a stud dog. He has given me stong puppies with good health, allergie free, who have a stong fight drive and good grips. He has produced many dogs who have gone on as Police, and detection dogs and well and high level family protection dogs. The Handlers and owners could not be happier. As for his Health he is 10 years old and every weekend he jumps my 6 foot privacy fence so that he will not get left at home when we go to training. Retirement does not sit well with him.
Anyone who says they have never gotten a bad hip or elbow out of a dog to me that seems like an immposable or somone who does not breed. However I am no were near knowing everything and I will continue to learn. For those out there who have perfect dogs and only perfect puppies I wish you all the best. 

Have a great evening 
Malinda

Here is Darka's Hips  ( Hans I am very happy with this dog and still am!) In fact I am only sad to said that she is such super dog that I have been offered crazzy money for her and the police departments who come train with me have seen her and are in love!!  She is Best Known as the flying DORK dog this picture was her at 7 months old . 

From the OFA website:

Since the hip and elbow evaluations are subjective, what level of consistency is there between the radiologists?
When results of 1.8 million radiographic evaluations by 45 radiologists were analyzed, it was found that all three radiologists agreed as to whether the dog should be classified as having a normal phenotype, borderline phenotype, or HD 94.9% of the time. In addition, 73.5% of the time, all three radiologists agreed on the same hip phenotype (excellent, fair, good, borderline, mild, moderate or severe). Twenty-one percent of the time, two radiologists agreed on the same hip grade and the third radiologist was within one hip grade of the other two. Two radiologists agreed on the same hip grade and the third radiologist was within two hip grades of the other two 5.4% of the time. This percentage of agreement is high considering the subjective nature of the evaluation.

Bliytzen said: Why don't you email them with your questions, Hans?
What questions are those?  I did not know that I have questions for OFA. 

Prager: I could anayzy your pedigree in more detail. But your purpose for the question is not pure.  All you want is to get some ammo for sniping. 

Yes, that is precisely the intent of this person and not to learn from the experiences of another person.  "More ammo to snipe", nails her intent !  I say completely ignore her and stop responding to her posts entirely and she will just fade away.  The more we respond, the more she will stick around and keep on sniping and crafting nonsensical posts that reek with ignorance.

My girl, whose mother is Masa Jipo-me's (Darka Jipo-me's mother) full sister, albeit not a litter-mate, is also a terrific girl.  One of the best dogs I have ever had, and a treasure to own. Extremely intelligent, athletic like a wild-cat and fast as a snap-whip.

Aaykay, I think I know her ulterior motive after seeing Cesar Jd owner's post. This person, I believe, is the same one who has been slamming me on the Internet. On my website I have a planed breeding with my Furo son and my Jirkova dvora female........now it is very evident where her nonsense is originating. I know what you mean about your girl, Aaykay, these are dogs that are unparralleled :)

Yes, doing a bunch of underhanded, below-the-belt, ugly stuff.  And I am surprised that Gustav and Prager keeps responding back to her (their intent being pure of course), effectively encouraging her to stick around.

Yep, it's called being a manipulator. If they don't "get their way", they go nuts. :(
It's hard not to try to get accurate information on here to counter her absolute BS, so I can understand the responses by Gustav and Prager.

The thing is if we only would breed on dogs where both male and female comes from 100% HD free litters, then lots of dogs can´t be breed on. You have to draw the line somewhere I guess and look at all aspects, a litter where one partner have 20% HD but only HD C combined with a partner that is 100% free I would assume is a much better choice than a combination where the 20% faults are more severe or on both sides. What the parents to a certain combination left earlier is also something to consider. One of the better producer of both HD/ED and mentality here in sweden for the moment has  father that has given quite much HD/ED, BUT he in his turn only had 4 litters and two of these where with females that themselves come from litters with pretty much HD or have produced it with other males, so in this case it´s likely  the females that was "responsible" more I guess. But there is room for improvement, I hardly think all who can accept some risk of HD/ED is doing this because the breedingcombination is flawless in other healthaspects and mentality.