Czech GSD's with bad hips - Page 35

Question - if I import an adult from the Czech Republic that has been registered there, would it have been xrayed and certifed as normal using the Czech scheme?  Is that mandatory to register? What about a dog that had already produced a registered litter there?

Thanks........

Blitzen, I can only speak to my experiences....I have imported many puppies and at least 5 adults...all the adults had titles and hip certifications....all of the puppies were out of titled dogs with hip certifications......I can only speak to what I know personally.

you you have to the the required minimum in order to have a registered litter:
title zvv1 or IPO1 minimum
certified, passing hips and I believe for a year elbows as well
DNA (german)
show rating and preferably Breed survey (for pink papers-3 litters in 2 years) or no survey (not pink papers they are white as I remember, and only one breeding per year)

first breed survey is only good for 2 years, ten the dog has to go for life.

Unless some changes were recently implemented, these were the ones I remeber. I remember going to Zvod, but that has been gone for a while now.

Response from OFA:

1. OFA request the stifles be included and that the femurs should be parallel. However, minor adjustments are permitted and the case of a severe dysplastic would not influence the evaluation.

2. OFA has always archived radiographs submitted for evaluation.

3. OFA has always used consulting veterinary radiologists (not students) for radiographic evaluations.

 

Thank you.

 

G.G. Keller, D.V.M., MS

Diplomate ACVR

Chief of Veterinary Services

Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

 

ggk/cas

 

It sounds like importing an adult from the Czech Republic might not be a bad idea for someone looking to breed those lines. Safer than buying a puppy for sure. I was curious whether all adults from there  had hip certs or just the ones that had already produced a litter. Good to know.

Anything over a year I have the hips certified, under one year, only a film to see.

aadilah07. 
 You asked me a question and I asked you a question in order to get something from you for my records/data base and in order to give you an answer.  It is a 2 way street. Why should I answer your questions when you are not willing to answer mine. And BTW I gave you the answer and so did Joanro. 
I give you the answer on more time. I have extensive data base here. How did I got that database. Besides many other things when the dog produced bad hips I mentioned in my database. You can start your own data  base. Put there Urf z Jirkova dvora and  Para z Jirkova dvora produced   bad hips.  Who is responsible for dysplastic dogs which pair of parents produced?  The pair of parents. That is only sure thing. The rest is collusion of facts an estimate. Based on experience, knowledge  and gut feeling. I could anayzy your pedigree in more detail. But your purpose for the question is not pure.  All you want is to get some ammo for sniping. 
And the other thing I would like to say. 
If you have litter of 10 pups and 2 are dysplastic and the rest is good than that is a breeding improvement since it is below  world average of 40%-60% of HD in GSD ( according to different statistic. ) If the litter was otherwise exceptional, than to repeat such litter is no problem. Most litters have about  1 out of 10 pups dysplastic. That is about 10% . Thus if you are breeder, then  not to repeat breeding because 1 pup or even 3  pups out of 10 were dysplastic is ,...I say it mildly, too purist because in that case if you demand to  breed better  then 10% HD you would need to stop breeding dogs. That is because any dog has probability to produce at least 10%-30% of HD. And if 10% happens  than  that is a winner.  20% is also winner. 30% in my book is OK if the rest of the litter is exceptional.  Anything below 40% is improving the breed . I am 100% behind what Gustav said about this issue.  
 Also to say that 

Aadilah07 let me ask you how many litters have you produce? Could you put the links of your dogs pedigrees here  for us to see? 

That seems fair to me, GSDPACK.

Blitzen the point one which I post  below is true for severe but what about mild and moderate. Take note that they did not mentioned those grades. That is since that would be  in direct contradiction with the study where many dogs were upgraded 3 and one 4 degrees by better positioning. One from Mild HD to Excellent!!!!!!
One more time the link for the study.
http://troyanimalhospital.com/troy-animal-hospital/files/2012/08/Variation_in_O.F.A.pdf

1. OFA request the stifles be included and that the femurs should be parallel. However, minor adjustments are permitted and the case of a severe dysplastic would not influence the evaluation.
What I have seen  are not minor adjustments. 
I really do not understand  what is your point? 
I think OFA is a great idea, but they are concerned with the betterment of the hips  than they  need and should do so much more.Your  defending OFA's shortcomings, which they could fix,  is not doing any good service to anybody and especially to the breed. If OFA will not improve their standards and rules to match the standards of European registries then people need to be aware of these shortcomings and do what I ever to verify as much data as possible. I would really be happy if they would post the radiographs with the evaluation on their website.  And if they with collusion with AKC demanded tattooing and or microchip implant  at no later then at 12 weeks of the age of the pup. And to read only well positioned dogs preferably in the cradle. 
I would also like to see that the breeders do not accept poorly positioned  dogs on the x rays from their veterinarians. If people would submit better x-rays then OFA would not be put into situation to reject the x rays. I also would like to say that I firmly believe that OFA are honest and good  people.  
Please read this: 
http://www.alpinek9.com/Hips.html

Why don't you email them with your questions, Hans?