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by SitasMom on 16 April 2014 - 14:04
I have to wonder how much these breeder donated to the "new facility fund" to get these high quality dogs!
The cost of a young high quality, titled dog with a good show recored would cost anywhere from 8000 to 25000. So a "donation" of a couple of thousand would be a great deal wouldn't it?

by northwoodsGSD on 16 April 2014 - 14:04
by zdog on 16 April 2014 - 15:04
well that seems to be a bit less than ethical. But I guess, should it really surprise anyone??
by SitasMom on 16 April 2014 - 16:04
This is from the father of the owner of the dog that had the abcess.
I wonder what "legal ownership documents" are?
Finally heard some news, Judge has everything he needs to see but still will not make decision on case of 6 dogs & their pups named in Lawsuits. My son & other people involved will be going to court May 28th. (I'm pretty upset that we the people & our dogs have to wait until then, and who knows, will they reschedule it that day? )
Here's the important information that is really scary for purebred dog owners: If your dog is micro chipped and you have his AKC Registration in your hand that does not mean you legally own this dog if challenged by authorities. I've been waiting weeks to get in writing a response from AKC. I thought I would get a letter stating that if I have the AKC registration than the dog is legally mine. I thought this would really help with my case. Here is the response from AKC & I quote "I am sorry, we are not able to provide legal advice, AKC registration papers are not legal documents, the legal ownership of a dog is determined by the courts." I am shocked & can't believe this. I thought for sure it would be proof. I did not tell them why I needed this question answered. Please be careful with your dogs. Dawn along with her attorney went to CGHS & did identify the dogs there (lots were not) and put in writing which dogs were hers & which dogs belonged to others. Please tell me your thoughts, how in the world can I prove they are mine? I don't know what else I can do. Charlene said Dawn refused to cooperated & identify the dogs, this is a downright lie and I hope Charlene is reading this.
by SitasMom on 16 April 2014 - 16:04
Dante posted on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151914811416572&set=pcb.10151914812311572&type=1&theater

by northwoodsGSD on 16 April 2014 - 16:04
Sitasmom,
If you click on the dogs names in my above post it takes you to more photos & comments about both of them :)
by SitasMom on 16 April 2014 - 16:04
does anyone know what documents are required to proove legal ownership?
do we need to combine our resources and hire a lawyer to find out?

by fawndallas on 16 April 2014 - 17:04
If a rescued dog can have a proven linage and proven to be an asset to the breed, why is it wrong for a new owner to plan to breed them? Sounds like many of these dogs come from good lines. Please note that I said proven lines. I in no way agree with an owner "thinking they got a great dog and plan to breed."
Now I do know in Texas, it is a law to have an adopted dog spay/neutered. Does this state have the same law?
by zdog on 16 April 2014 - 18:04
Do you not see a moral or ethical issue with a rescue doing a raid and rescue on a group of dogs living is such squalor and disgusting breeding environment, only to be "adopted" out fully intact to known breeders with a change in AKC registration right behind them?
no dog "Must" be bred. There aren't any that special that a thousand other dogs can't do exactly what they were doing or produce it along the line. The GSD won't die off without these dogs, not by a long shot.
I'm kind of, of the understanding that if a breeding dog has to be taken in a "raid and rescue" because the conditions are so horrible, they pretty much have put in their time and they should have nothing to look forward to but rest and relaxation in a very loving home. Not being "adopted" out for a donation to a well known breeder looking to keep on keeping on. It's a bunch of horseshit if you ask me.
by beetree on 16 April 2014 - 18:04
I bet a dog license from your town/city would prove ownership.
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