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Prager

by Prager on 03 September 2009 - 20:09

Jurdon I have done my fighting. I have got even shot. What about you? I also know that you would not call me a coward in my face. Nobody ever did.
Bob McKown I agree with you. But that is not going to happen. And even if it would it would then be just another party. We need to vote (Yes I can vote)  for good people in the parties we have now and keep them accountable or vote them out if they do not keep their word.  And voters need to educate themselves about the constitution, bill of rights and freedom and liberty and tyranny and Magna Charta and about history of Communism and history if independence and oppression. And about the topic they vote on. Government can not mess with us if we are knowledgeable. Ignorance is our worst enemy.
And stand for your rights and rights of the others. Do not expect any government to take care of you. Take care of yourself and help others take care of them selves.  People in Government have no interest in taking care of you. They just say that so that they will  get your votes and then they use your votes to get more power/money for them selves. They will never have true interest in taking care of individual people. Our founding Fathers knew that.  Look , for example Dems are saying that they are all for blacks. Well show me where they helped them? That is decades of them claiming that. Lincoln was republican. The great MLK must be spinning in the grave. What happened to : I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.? That would be disaster for most politicians if we would get along.
There is more division in this nation then ever since WW 2. That is what the politicians strive on. Divide and impera. Divide and rule. Old Roman truism. Anyway I am tired.
Prager(Hans)

by jlim on 03 September 2009 - 20:09

Here is one pastor's method of dealing with the "imposter" president.

"On August 16th, Anderson delivered a sermon titled "Why I Hate Barack Obama". In it, Anderson admitted he prays for the president's death."

Perhaps one of the Christians can explain how this can be reconciled with the Christian faith.

www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-pastor-reiterates-wish-for-President-Obamas/MX2Vzd4unEi9n8PschT50w.cspx





Bucko

by Bucko on 03 September 2009 - 20:09

Maggie is right about one thing -- over 90% of the people in this country who have Ph.D.s voted for Obama.

So all those misfit valedictorians (the ones who actually got the answers right on all those tests year after year) "fell" for Obama, while everyone else (the ones who made a lot more mistakes) voted for McCain.

Is this too subtle?

Prager

by Prager on 03 September 2009 - 21:09

Educated idiots.
Prager

Bucko

by Bucko on 03 September 2009 - 21:09

My acid test for whether or not you can function as a mentally functional citizen in a free society is how you react to this:

http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/hunting-wolves-and-men/?ref=


Bucko

by Bucko on 03 September 2009 - 21:09


Who wants to bet that the same people who think Michael Vick (black) didn't pay enough of a price serving his time in prison for fighting dogs, think shooting wolves (by white guys) is a grand idea, and joking about assasinating a (black) president is ok, just meant in good fun?

And then those same people will tell that they are not racist.  In fact, they will tell you that calling them racist is race-baiting.

I read those recent posts with trepidation for my country!


Bucko

by Bucko on 03 September 2009 - 21:09

Without government, we are merely a rabble.  The most aggressive bastards win all in that game, and the poor suffer and die off in droves.  No society has ever survived without a government of some sort.

Unfortunately, governments that tried to serve communitarian or social values exclusively have failed -- everyone has to admit that communism has been a failed experiment.

Capitalist democracies remain a better but an unfortunate alternative -- with huge inequalities and too few social safety nets.  The US for example is only second to Brazil in the unjust inequality of income, wealth and access to basic services.

The only workable experiments so far have been the social democracies, best represented by Scandinavia.  They tax more, provide more services, are much more equal, and much better educated -- and they are more economically efficient, with higher economic growth for the last generation.

This is not hard if you do not spend over 80% of your R&D and an astonishing % of your budget on war.

Somebody forgot to tell Americans that we have fallen very far behind and we are not who we think we are.  We are flunking reading and math -- in the remedial classes.

 


sueincc

by sueincc on 03 September 2009 - 21:09

"Dems are saying that they are all for blacks".  REALLY?  What is a statement like that even supposed to mean?  In this country,  both the Dems and the Reps are supposed to be  "for" all people, regardless of color.  As a matter of fact,   Martin Luther King would be pleased to see we have made great strides with regards to civil rights and equality, though obviously we still have a ways to go.  We all know Lincoln was a Republican.  Do  you know what the Republican Party and  Nixon's "southern strategy" was and why when in the south he campaigned hard on promises of "states rights"?  Are you aware that it was President Lyndon Johnson, democrat,   who championed  Civil Rights?  Things change, people evolve.

MVF

by MVF on 03 September 2009 - 21:09

I am confused by the view that Obama is somehow less concerned about freedom than Bush -- is that what some people believe? Obama taught constitutional law at the U of Chicago and according to any objective criteria appears to have a deep and abiding understanding of and respect for the Constitution. He even angered leftists by his nomination of comparably centrist judge (Sotomayor) who moved the Supreme Court demonstrably to the RIGHT.

Bush on the other hand -- through Cheney -- advanced a theory of the unitary executive. This is what Jefferson -- the founding father so many of you think you love -- called "monarchy" and when he saw it in Alexander Hamilton he condemned it -- and insisted on the First Amendment (which some of you don't like, either). Bush sought to vastly reduce the power of the people and their legislative representatives and vastly increase the power of the president -- in part through manipulation of the OLC in the DOJ.  Obama does not even exert enough pressure on Holder (his AG) to hold off on investigations of misconduct with respect to the torture memoranda - investigations sure to backfire politically and hurt the Dems and Obama.  But they are going ahead because unlike Bush, Obama does not seek to "own" the AG of the US. 

Obama is obviously inclined to give back freedom to the American people that was taken by Bush/Cheney, and quite intentionally in both cases.  He could have merely held onto the power and no one would really have blamed him.  But instead he turned back his power to give us back our constitutional rights.

Sometimes people here seem like bulls in the bullring, but in this case someone only has to waive a red, white and blue flag for people to charge around with blood in their eyes.

MVF

by MVF on 03 September 2009 - 21:09

By the way, if you believe in real freedom you should petition your congressional rep and ask that we create a move to independently elect our US Attorney General.  This is a completely non-partisan issue.

The president should have no power to create a mini-me (Gonzales) or even the appearance of a mini-me (Holder).  We need independent law enforcement capable of controlling illegality in the White House on down.  The Bush years showed us that an appointed AG is a terrible mistake.





 


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