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by Rik on 10 June 2010 - 13:06

I had a conversation (by PM) with the owner of the dog whose tail was broken. He stated that he did not feel that it was intentional. I took him at his word. I just found it too hard to believe that anyone was breaking tails intentionally and that anyone could actually "repair" a tail with any amount of accuracy by doing so. There are very skilled vets here in the U.S. who can repair the tails by surgical procedures.

Oftentimes, a dog can develop a "kink" that is not genetic. Sometimes it is from a muscle knotting up, sometimes the bones are knocked out of line. It is a very common procedure to "work" these kinks out. There is an animal chiropractor in my area who is very skilled at doing this.

I have no wish to take up someone else's battle, have no knowledge of mittelwest ethics or lack of. Nor is it a concern to me. What I do know is that the incident, as told to me by the owner of the dog, is very different from some of what is being posted here.

Best,
Rik

by sueincc on 10 June 2010 - 13:06

Regarding the Black on Black shampoo, perhaps it's a matter of semantics, but if you go to the product detail section of the Chris Christensen Systems website and scroll down to Black on Black:

http://www.chrissystems.com/detail_informaiton.htm

BENEFITS:
#1 A semi permanent color that will not rub off on hands or clothing or for that matter a white towel, and last up to 4 weeks.

The fact that your goal was to only correct a sun bleached coat is understandable, and I am certainly not saying you set out to decieve anyone with regards to the true color of the dog, I get it. BUT if you are trying to intimate what USA did was unfair, I have a problem with that. Regardless of why you did it, it's still coloring the coat according to the product website, so to say otherwise is splitting hairs (pun intended).

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by Liesjers on 10 June 2010 - 14:06

I don't see why anyone would want or need to cheat by coloring coat or enhancing coat. I've seen many dogs win classes that had very little black mask, very faded or bitch striped saddles. It doesn't even seem to matter. Many of the American show line or working line dogs I see have far better color and pigment than German show lines. I wash my dogs with my water hose and groom them with a $7 rake from Target and I've had many judges comment on my dog's rich color and pigment.

by Mystere on 10 June 2010 - 14:06

Lisa,

I have repeatedly explained the process for filing and why.

Phil,

PLEASE read the bylaws to properly file any BOI charges you might file. This will help your avoid the problems of those who failed to do so and had their charges rejected. For example, you DO NOT send anything to the USA office. If you would like guidance/assistance/advice for filing, feel free to contact.

Julie,

It aint dazzling. JMHO

by Phil Behun on 10 June 2010 - 14:06

Thank you, I will start the process today.

by MaggieMae on 10 June 2010 - 15:06

Shampoo Hair Color doesn't do anything to change the color -- it will not turn light hair to dark. It has no developer and, therefore, is useless as a way of "dying"/"coloring" hair. What it does is make the hair more manageable and brings out the luster in the natural color of the hair for a healthy appearance.

by MaggieMae on 10 June 2010 - 15:06

Just curious -- why is Phil filing a BOI; as I understand it, he doesn't own a German Shepherd. Phil are you a member of the Club?

Another observation regarding all this complaining about the Judges, cheating, etc. If people feel so strongly about it, why do they "run" and make excuses when they see the cost of filing is $200? If you feel so sure that you are right -- and you win -- the $200 filing fee is refunded to you. In others words, put your Money where Your Mouth is !!

by Aqua on 10 June 2010 - 15:06

In support of Julie Matinez and her team's sportsmanship:

We were exhibitors at the 2004 SS in Nashville. Shaded parking was hard to come by. Our van was covered with aluminet, doors open. The temps were bearable but by no means comfortable.

Julie instructed one of her team members to move their vehicles closer together so that we could park in the shade of a tree. She also assigned someone to keep an eye on our open van while we went to grab a bite to eat.

Julie, we will never forget the kindness you showed us that day!

by Liesjers on 10 June 2010 - 15:06

True, Maggie, and it probably cost about $200 to put a dog in the SS anyway, after the entry fee, handler, correct papers and registration.

I'm not a member, didn't enter any dogs, and didn't go watch. Based on this thread I'm glad I didn't waste my time. If I had put in the time, money, and travel and did see these things there'd be nothing to lose in filing especially with others offering to chip in.

by MaggieMae on 10 June 2010 - 15:06

,,,,and ALL those complaining and "chipping in money" should have their names on the Complaint.

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