Bizarre dog fraud case - Page 3

Anyone else that PM's me asking names, I will not provide that information. Especially to members I have never seen make a single post before.

Funny the only info about this big fraud is right here, must be no one pissed enough about it to be complaining, oh, that's right, big secret investigation ,lol
In the crappy ol' US of A, the crummy AKC will fix all the registrations for 50 bucks...
Give the correct sire to the kennel club, they will fix all registrations

Out of meds?

Kitkat, all I can say is: it happened before, it can probably happen again. In Australia or the US or the UK - Susie has a good point about the SV registration of DNA samples, in that it is compulsory and universal IN GERMANY; it unfortunately isn't, anywhere else. But the issue isn't about if this is a German dog or not, but what happens/happened outside Germany. You would only be able to find out if such a switcheroo had been done on you AFTER THE FACT.  I realise breeders would find it embarrassing to think they had been caught like this.

@ Les P - in general I agree with the thoughts in your e-mail. Its true that vk4 hasn't given anything away, INCLUDING that we don't even know if the dog / the events are in Australia. And as a first reaction, I too have some doubts about the efficacy of the German system (which even where it works, is STILL presumably 'post' the production of actual puppies ...). But I'll e-mail you a more detailed response, so as not to go OT here.

My apologies to all of our friends in Oz and New Zealand, I AM lazy, 'cos I only recently read some reference to "AuKC" somewhere and copied it unthinkingly; so okay, that reference ^ should have read "ANKC" for (Australia & New Zealand); and thanks for the link to check all these KCs quickly in future ! Useful !

At least they have used a GSD to substitute a GSD, not a Malinois to spruce up/juice up their working line, or a Groenendael to inadvertently bring back the dominant black. So at least the purity of the breed hasn't been compromised.

Using the name of a dead dog is insanely bizarre, but as Hundmutter said, substitutions have happened before, may be happening right now, and will happen in the future. But, also as Susie said, with the advancement of DNA testing, breeders will be more frightened to be party of these types of frauds.

And, thank you for discussing PMs, vk & Hundmutter.

I know a guy that was the third owner of a czech import that at least in theory bred a lot of pups, he got the dog at 7yo as a stud for his kennel....at a great price.

 

The only thing that the dog could ejaculate was a bit of clear fluid and blood.

I think honestly people rush to get in quick if they think they are onto a spectacular deal.

At 7yo a stud can START ejaculating clear fluid and blood. Proves nothing.

The point is the dog was purchased specifically as a stud dog.

The buyer for a dog that age should have just paid service fees, people look past the risks too easy if they think they are getting a great deal.

 

If I sell a bull at the price this dog went for I am obliged to guarantee its health and fertility and pay for a sperm count by a repro vet.

 

Dog world has its own set of not rules.

surprized at nothing today in the world of famous dogs, many people also in other parts of the world send their dogs out to be bred to fame and never see the actual mating and if they do, I know several personally that didnot recognize the male breeding their bitch as the dog on the photoshopped picture, I know one breeder from holland that was so dissapointed in the actual dog in Germany that he took his female home without having her bred