DM testing - Page 3

Interesting you mentioned ALS as inherited, study has found it maybe genetic engendered by a virus.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ancient-virus-may-cause-crippling-disease-als-study-finds-n436911

I am doing the testing, and not having to cut anything out of my plans, and not finding a huge amount of 'at risk' dogs out there to worry about. One way or another it just seems responsible to know what you have.

Bubba's war on everything.

Titles, tests, science, organisations, the police, government....the entire world outside bubba's property line.

I would love to hear bubba's version of how it should be done instead why everything that is done is wrong.

I think if you read my comments I do not say that ALS is "primarily" an inherited diseases .. quite the contrary. Likewise for DM and HD most likely .. environment plays a huge role in the expression of diseases regardless of the familial genetics of an individual. In the case of DM and HD the genetics involved in the expression of these diseases is poorly understood or most likely misunderstood. My experience is that the dog's best interest is not in their control and many businesses ( veterinarians, dog food companies, vaccine makers, OFA, breed clubs, etc. ) spend a lot of time and money selling things not in the dog's best interest to those controlling the dog's fate ( dog owners ) and the person who has the money. Dog food commercials are not targeted toward dogs but are intended to convince dog owners that food waste products in a bag are "natural and Beneful" for our dogs to eat. Likewise convenience items for owners such as 6 month flea and tick collars or 6 month heart worm injections are sold as good for our dog when in fact they have been shown to be harmful. Therefore it is important that dog owners not be baffled with BS peddled as brilliance by those making money from selling things to dog owners as "what our dogs need". The financial goals of organizations such as the veterinarians, SV, AKC, and OFA are to stay in business, get larger and more affluent, and keep the staff and leadership of these organizations well compensated. Despite their pleadings that they want "what is best" for our dogs I persist in my argument that what these organizations really want is what is best for themselves and their financial goals.

Not disagreeing with that, but it's comparing apples with oranges
to imply that just because a new dog food might be pushed as 'beneficial'
when that's really code for "Its beneficial to us cos its going to be so
profitable", there is likely to be no value in a research project about any
disease.
Granted there are limitations on studies that are to do with funding; but
there are independent and university-based research projects (maybe
not too many in the States, but then as I tirelessly point out, the US is
not The World) which do exist, are worth supporting, do get some results
on diseases and conditions, and/or the genetics of those. As long as we
are well read-up and sceptical, there is no reason to dismiss support and
results for all research en masse.

DM testing wether a valid test or not, it is an easy test to be cheated and faked if all one has to do is swab a dogs cheek that has been cleared in the past. At this point in time its all based on the honor system.

Buyer beware, make sure that the dog in question has been permanently identified....I don't know if "the other" lab has the same requirements or not. I do know that OFA is the only registry that offers a public database. I think that's a good thing.

http://Effective January 1, 2001, the OFA adopted a policy acknowledging animals that have been submitted for inclusion in its databases that have permanent identification in the form of tattoo or microchip. Animals not permanently identified will continue to be evaluated; however, they will be issued a number clearly indicating that the animal has no permanent identification. Animals with permanent identification will have a suffix of PI added to the OFA number. Animals that are permanently identified AND have had the identification verified by the attending veterinarian will have a suffix of VPI applied. Animals with no permanent identification will have a suffix of NOPI applied. Effective 1/1/08, only dogs with verified permanent identification (VPI) will have their OFA data transmitted to the AKC for inclusion in their database.

Most tests, Bundishep, are on the "honor system" unless every dog's
results are accompanied by its Tattoo or Microchip number. The DNA
cheek swabs are no different than Xrays in that respect, it so often IS
possible to swap a 'cleared' dog for the one that is supposed to be getting
tested. That is also a "buyer beware" matter and a reason for being a
sceptic - but the majority of people just seem to want what is right for their
dogs and their customers.

 

 

@Blitzen - we were thinking & posting along the same lines again .

Can anyone post a pedigree for a all east line who was confirmed DM.
 

know several but will not post,one is from all famous line and breeder who was telling it was not ok to test because test are not accurate

Why would anyone even think that DM doesn't effect the entire breed?