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by beetree on 08 July 2013 - 15:07
To add to other points such as the one's Euroshepherd outlined, I just listened to the video and not watch it. The bystanders, including the man who was cuffed, acted like it was a block party. It was his own stupidity to press the issue and not take into account who is wearing a gun.
He took a deadly risk and lost it with his dog's life. Very sad. Very stupid.
by Slamdunc on 08 July 2013 - 15:07
miamidade, with your attitude, you're not likely to have many allies here. Are you the guy in the first video you posted here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVmXB3XSa0&feature=player_embedded
That was the best part of this thread! Two nice, but poorly trained dogs showed in that video. If I were miamidadecounty K9 I would be embarrassed by the performance of both dogs and certainly would not be criticizing or questioning anyone else's training ability.
There is a lot I could say about the incident, what was going on and what happened.........But, I don't think I will. I am surprised it took so long to be posted here.
by zdog on 08 July 2013 - 15:07
by scarreddecoy on 08 July 2013 - 15:07
i feel like both owner and police were in the wrong here. Obviously the owner shouldn't be there. Here wouldn't have been arrested if he had listened to the police in the beginning. As well as leaving the windows down in the car.
however I dont feel the dogs actions warranted lethal action. The dog was not committed to biting or injuring the officers. It was simply aroused by the scenario. As well as the officer that was nipped at should know better than to reach over a strange aroused dog. However the dog still wasnt committed to injure him even then. It was simply a warning nip IMO.
IMO there are several way the officers in could have affected the outcome. 1) this man obviously wasnt fighting them as they had him put the dog in the car in the 1st place. They could have had him repeat the process. especially with this being a minor misdemeanor charge. 2)the man is already restrained it doesnt take multiple officers. crowding the suspect. without so much tension the dogs arousal state wouldnt be as high and would have given the officers time to find a solution.
but my favorite is:
3) Knowing the man had the dog with him before arresting him they should have had him call someone to take the dog or call animal control before detaining the suspect. Putting the dog in a hot car wasnt the right thing to do. This is my favorite solution as it takes care of all parties involved and wouldnt allow the situation to occur in the 1st place in any case or future endeavors. I feel it should be SOP. Safest for the officers, suspects, and the dogs.
I do feel though that this has happened several times previous and every incident of this nature has a lot of media scrutiny. So from or leo's what is the SOP?
I would love to know. Because I would think with as big of an issue this causes for police they would definitely take note and have a trained procedure for dealing with dogs. whether it be a misdemeanor on the street, dogs in car on traffic. felony raids, etc.......
by beetree on 08 July 2013 - 15:07
But still, why does it matter?
Don't ask the damn question then, if you don't want an answer.
by Western Rider on 08 July 2013 - 16:07
by zdog on 08 July 2013 - 16:07
about all we've gained is you have a personal issue with the OP. Great, go make your own thread and you two can quarrel there.
by scarreddecoy on 08 July 2013 - 16:07
So instead of everyone saying this is bad. and debating on what could have happen. how about we ask how to prevent it from happening in the future.
by beetree on 08 July 2013 - 16:07
by zdog on 08 July 2013 - 16:07
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