The saddest breeding program I have ever seen! - Page 3

well how would u know? He used diffrend kind of dog's to develope the GSD. Was he told not to do that was he put thruh the ringer by other breeders for developing a NEW breed?
Besides she has not used the GSD in years ...
and to find out what dog's work and give u what u want hell yes u have to go thruh a lot of diffrend dogs breeds. Do u think Stephanitz found the two perfect dogs and that was the end of it he had HIS perfect dog right a way ?
U guys constantly say he would turn in his grave about this and that.How the HEll would u know? Any of u ever meet the man?
besides the GSD has been the starting point in other breeds as well or not?

 "Germany was becoming more industrial less pastoral."

Well, it can also be said that as society becomes more affluent, the working role of any dog has greatly diminished.
 
It is more and more true that as society becomes more affluent, the companionship role of a dog, any dog, has become paramount.

There is also the popularity of firearms that reduces the utility of protection dog.

The requirement that a GSD must have high working ability is also obsolete.

Health of a pet is paramount, certainly. Other than that , different stroke for different folks I say.

I very much prefer the sloping and straight top line in a GSD.

There is a leap of faith that SchH is a necessary substitution for herding.

If a GSD can't herd, it can still be an affectionate companion and look a certain way that gives the owner visual satisfaction.
 
A GSD of any line always has significant rule in protection, when the owner has a gun.  

Personally, I don't endorse breeders who engage in a fun game of mixology, just to see what it will produce. To me, it's an insult to breeders who work hard to hone DNA (of a PUREBRED). Ms. Schwarz, dies on that slippery slope to planned obsolecense, of a breed, by crossing it willy-nilly. I personally don't care how many which ways to Sunday, she justifies her actions on her website, I for one would never drink that pink Kool-Aid, she sells (most often...I'm sure....to the unsuspecting public). I see it alot in the breed I own, and it definitely gets my blood boiling.

IMHO...it's not breeds that are misunderstood, it's people that purchase them, not ever knowing what they were originally intentioned for. To me, it's like buying a Ferrari vs. a Chev. Ferrari has successfully done it up right...they've stayed true to their quality...and there's a semblance of romance there. Same thing should be applied to the dog world. Instead, people now-a-days embrace this "designer dog/hybrid" concept, like it's the best thing since....oh...let's see....sliced bread?....no wait....too boring....the domestication of dogs?...too obvious...the invention of the internet!...and the funny thing is....they get dupt into paying big $$$$$ by these so-called "breeders" of these so-called "dogs". I'd never pay $1 for a mutt!

I just have one question...What's a Shepalute?

Crys

HighDesert You asked whether or not Max Stephanitz would be rolling over in his grave since GSDs are rarely used for herding anymore.  I was simply answering your question.  Logic dictates he would NOT have been rolling over in his grave since he was the one responsible for moving the breed in the direction of law enforcement and military in the first place.

Your statement that GSDs are obsolete for military and law enforcement work is preposterous, and is not based in fact.  You can rationalize it six ways from Sunday, the fact remains the GSD is a working dog, and anyone who sets out to reduce them to nothing but  a show dog couch potato is doing the breed a disservice I don't care  how you slice it.

Good day.

Okay, I don't usually even post on topics like this but this thread got my attention and now I have to respond to a post made directly to me because it is just too tempting :)

"Tempa - "wow for spending waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time on her side u sure did not understand what u been reading as u dont seem to have read that a lot of the breeds she inter breed with are NOT in her lines anymore,and also that they where interduced in to seperate lines to see what they will produce and how the pups developed before getting them in to her main line .... and most out crosses did not even made it to that point ..."

Really? That was your response, I understood everything I read on her site in the good hour and a half of my  life that was wasted in reading it. It doesn't matter if the dogs are still in her lines or not, the fact of the matter is that she ever introduced them in the first place and tried them out, like some mad scientist from what I read on her site....reading your posts in defense of her and what she does makes me think we may be talking to the infamous founder of the "Shepalute" herself....

What she is doing and claiming to be providing to her customers is a bunch of garbage in my opinion....now remember everyone is entitled to their opinion and you may think mine is wrong but I'm pretty sure I've got plenty of people on this thread that would agree with me in a heartbeat. Now why don't you run off and go help her do dig her puppies out of the dirt holes they are born in according to her, unless they are all smothered already...Goodnight and good luck to ya!

nope ur not even close on that one leoetta.
and yes that was my response becorse u may read it but i dont think u understood it. and no i'm not beeing mean or what ever else will come to mind .My point is that i dont think any of u have ever meet one of them dogs but u juge non the less.
besides the pups are not born in a dirt hole they do have beding in it why is it so bad that the pups are born out side?in the ground in the dirt?whats wrong with that?
I would call that more of a natural breeding what dos not kill u makes u stronger or not?
Why would  they be smothered?dont other animales give birth in den's? how many do u think get smothered?
and yes ur right every one is entiteled to there own opinion but would it not be better to know more about it and also see and interact before having a opinon and juging something only by word's? See for ur self then form ur opinon.

 

First of all, not to be rude, but please use spell check and, it makes it easier to read your posts.

I don't need to see any of her dogs in person, and neither does anyone else on this board. Don't people buy your......oops I mean her puppies a lot of the time just off of what they see on her website, pictures, descriptions, hilarious videos...oh maybe that's who you are, the girl on the great road trip to the fabulous home of the Shepalute! Now it all makes sense......I don't have the time, nor do I have the patience to argue with someone like you....it is a lost cause....I have better things to do like spend time with my dogs. Enjoy your Shepalute and I'll enjoy my GSDs....and their puppies being born inside in my clean home in their clean whelping room with their mother being supervised during her whelping process to ensure the safety and health of both the puppies and my beloved females. I know plenty of animals are born in dirt dens in the wild and that is fine for them..maybe your friend thinks that if her Shepalutes whelp like a wolf then that'll make them look more like a wolf :) This has already sucked up way to much of my valuable time...good bye :)