Definition of Civil Drive for Police/P. Protection Dogs - Page 3

There is no need to reinvent the wheel. There are scientific definitions which we should apply.
First we need to define what is drive per se:  Drives are genetically build in urges that makes animal to seek the core necessities for survival.( Food, sex, safety,...)  The drive has usually  2 circuits:
 1.Physical
( like Hunger caused by sugar fluctuations and other physiological changes)
 and
2. emotional or seeking  (like hunting which is action necessary to be taken to satisfy a hunger for example.)  
Which describes prey drive.

Or we can see:
1. physical( threat, source of danger or pain ....)
2. emotional or seeking ( aggression,  fight  or flight,..)
Which describes Defense drive.

These drives hare hard wired into the genetic makeup of the dog.
Now it had been scientifically established that  what the dog is going to target in prey or defense drive is a learned behavior.
We can in prey for example, teach the dog to target sleeve or a burlap or a rabbit or a human and then his arm, leg, chest,....
  Similar could be said about defense drive. 
Thus what the dog is going to attack (imprinted to attack)  is always  a learned behavior since nobody is going to convince anybody here that the dogs are genetically predisposed  to bite a sleeve.

Description of word CIVIL in this context is this:
Person in or with bite equipment is a person in "uniform" since then the dog is taught to bite this "uniform"
Person without such equipment is a person without uniform or in "civil" .

Conclusion:
 If the dog is civil or not is a learned behavior. Ability of different dogs to learn such behavior is inherited.

Assumption:
 I know what "assume" means ..OK!? :))
But:
Some here said that "civil drive" is inherited but in my book I believe that then you are really talking about inherited courage  and fight drive instead,  which is ability of the dog to bring the fight in prey d. or defense d. to a prey or to a source of the threat.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
 

Well put Hans

Thank you Hans, finally someone who understands that a dog works for one main reason,,,,it's own survival. Find out what each individual dog needs to survive and you can train them to do anything.

mmmuuumm...!!!..And than it begins to understand....!!

Agents......!!!!

                   For me personally, this is one of the hardest topics to understand,,,,Just when I think I get it,,,I lose it again,,,,The link  Slamdunc posted of the older thread was very interesting.....very worth reading...

                                           Deanna...: )

Very well put R1.........I think?

 Here is a video of a civil training excersise, this day we were training with a K9 unit....the bitch is a sport dog who is "naturally civil" or better described in depth by prager her ability to "learn civil behavior" was inherently fast.