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by yellowrose of Texas on 04 June 2009 - 00:06
NOT A BITCH FOR BREEDING PURPOSE..SELL HER GET RID OF HER GIVE HER BACK...
RULES OF THE BREEDING FORCE....NO EXCUSES...IF YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THOSE 8 THINGS TO GET A LITTER FIRST ,SECOND OR EVER.......WRONG BITCH...NOT A REASONABLE FEMALE FOR THE BREED.GENETICS IS BASED ON NEUROLOGICAL MAKEUPS...PEOPLE HAVE NERVOUS BREAKDOWNS ALSO.
WOMEN HAVE PROBLEMS CONCEIVING, CARRYING AND DELIVERING A BORN CHILD....SOME WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE MOTHERS OR CARRY A CHILD.
A WHOLE LOT OF BITCHES SHOULD NOT BE BRED OR REBRED IF THIS HAPPENS.....A BIG NO NO SIGN..
IF YOU TAKE ON THE ROLL OF BREEDER...IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVE THE LINE, KEEP THE REPUTATION OF THE LINEAGE PURE, STRONG, NOT REGRESSED NOR WITH ANY FAULTS AND FLAWS KNOWN TO YOU...THAT IS YOUR HONORABLE DUTY OR YOU SHOULD NOT BE BREEDING....
HARD HEADED OR HEARD HEARTED...USE ANY TERM YOU CHOOSE...IT IS YOUR DUTY TO DO WHAT IS CORRECT, NOT WHAT YOU WANT OR FEEL.
i AM NOT SHOUTING NOR YELLING...IT IS EASIER FOR ME TO TYPE CAPS...MY EYESIGHT IS GONE AND MY KEYBOARD WORKS BETTER....
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by TStrickland on 04 June 2009 - 02:06
by CMills on 04 June 2009 - 03:06
by yellowrose of Texas on 04 June 2009 - 04:06
I adopted one before I had the other..
.Had nothing to do with being a good mom....It was about CHILDBIRTH BUT NOW THAT THE SUBJECT IS BROUGHT UP;;
THE truth is:
Some women are too nervous, too skitzy , to off the wall nerologically to have children also...A lot of women have children thinking a child will weld a relationship when the nerves kick in ......who suffers ....?????? The child does.
In the dog world ,,the pups do.....
In the news, last year , how many women stood trial for killing their children???? I remember two , might have been more...quite sure there were....Look how many abortions are done every year......Nerves...wrong decisions..health reasons...??????? THe burden lies in procreation...whether in animals or humans.....serious business....and life is a gift...not to be taken lightly...nor toyed with...
Originally I was not talking about being a good Mom or a bad mom...but now that we are on the subject.....ASK SOCIAL WORKERS ANYWHERE>>>many a womans nerves cause mega problems in the home......some women should not have children.......research the millions of women on drugs for nerves, etc.....???
by ShelleyR on 04 June 2009 - 13:06
Thus, I chose NOT to reproduce. I intentionally dialed myself right out of the gene pool. I have never regretted that decesion. I don't miss being a grandmother either. Some are just not meant to be mothers. If my Mom had had a choice I wouldn't be here. At least we HAVE a choice these days.
Next time you find the very last parking space in a busy parking lot... You can thank me for not filling it with my progeny.. LOL
SS
by Red Sable on 04 June 2009 - 13:06
I love kids, mine anyways
however, even though they weren't planned, 
I made sure I stopped at two. I know I haven't the patience for anymore. I do think alot of childless women transfer the maternal instinct to their dogs, sometimes in an unhealthy way. Okay, I may get beaten for that, but I know of quite a few who really baby their fur babies with sometimes negative results, especially in shepherds or other dominant breeds.
Not you Shelley!
by ShelleyR on 04 June 2009 - 13:06
I never liked the thought of stretch marks either. The women in my family get really ugly ones. They look like those flames we used to paint on hot cars and all the sit-ups they could do didn't make those bellies go away. I'm pretty sure my mom and grandmother resented their kids for doing that to their bodies. At least they didn't eat their young, although I am told that the only reason Mom didn't bite me at birth is because Mammy grabbed me just in time and handed her a sandwich. Ha ha ha.
Nothing more horrifying than finding a pile of little heads in the corner of the whelping box. UGH!
SS
by Kalibeck on 04 June 2009 - 13:06
by katjo74 on 05 June 2009 - 06:06
Well, one thing about it, too-if she reproduces and you manage somehow to keep the pups alive, what's to make sure her progeny wouldn't carry her nasty trait?
I definitely wouldn't want to go thru such again, period. I understand, sometimes nicely bred dogs cost considerable $$$$ and then to find out you can't do anything with them, well, it sucks but you take the loss, learn from it, and try again or take up knitting...
And, if this was her "first" litter supposedly, maybe it's NOT. It could be that someone out there had the dog previously and are aware of her nasty vice that you have become unhappily involved with and returned her to the breeder-or something like that in her past. After all, a female can get pregnant but if she doesn't nurse pups due to killing them, her body will adjust and be normal in a few months just like she never had anything. So she may NOT exactly be a first-time mom or this a first time occurrance....just something to consider.
The dog is clearly not breed-worthy, nor would I want her progeny for future breeding. Like done said, there's plenty enough decent dogs out there as is.
by Jean Duff on 05 June 2009 - 18:06
Has anyone thought about the female: their can be a number of reasons for her behaviour, some are and probably always will be unkown to us. The female cannot tell you there is a problem and it is absolute madness for anyone to try and presuppose they know the reason and KILL HER. At worst rehoming in a pet home (provided the temperament is good). I have never had this happen but can quote from some of my previous articles in breed magazines:
If the pack ( dog or human) is all female taking what is considered to be a Beta female and having her mated can upset the order. Obviously in a true pack situation this could only occur through deceptive methods but the female would be ostracised by the pack and her pups if the pregnancy makes full term very likely would not survive. Some lower ranked females in a pack when pregnant have been known to disown their own pups as a mark of respect to the Alpha. Ever wonder why some of our females do not rear their pups?
Without knowing the female no-one on this forum can make a judgement; there is life here and I would think very seriously before blaming the female out of hand. Keep wondering why this happens though as it is important to the life of not only the breed but the poor animals.
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