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ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 02 April 2009 - 12:04

A lot of smaller breeders breed very hard dogs, just don't breed a LOT of litters. As for the larger kennels, I would guess Tiekerhook, Haus Sevens and Walwinkel probably produce the largest number of hard dogs by percentage.
SS

by Bob McKown on 02 April 2009 - 13:04

j:

        I would like to know your description of "hard dog" what to you makes a dog "hard" the term is as subjective as what is "art" I,m truely intrested on what makes this dog "hard" ? 

by Larry Filo on 02 April 2009 - 14:04

I agree with Pierre totally. He looks for the same things that I do in a dog. I do not breed nearly as often as he does but I have three males for just six females and the production from those particular crosses produce the dog that I can do sport, if we desire or Police work which is what we do the most. I have had many males over the years and I now have three that are among the best I have had. Chico is in the top two or three males I have ever had here on the property. He has no environment problems and has produced none, his progeny are very fast learners, have excellent drive and natural balance of drives. Granted he has only been bred to several females but our Anaconda/Chico cross has produced the most consistent litters I have had over the years. It has been very difficult to learn how to breed properly for me and has taken me many years to figure out what I was actually doing and seeing in my pups. As for what a hard dog is, that is open to different interpretations. I believe it is the dog you can take anywhere, is willing to give is life for you and is fearless in all and any situation you put him in. Chico is one of those very rare dogs. He consistantly receives comments in judging at his trials on his strength and drive and has been called a true 10 by several judges. He does not work for Angie because she forces him, he works for her because of their bond together. He is one of the few dogs I would walk down a dark alley anywhere with, knowing that he would truly give his life to defend us if needed. I have had very few dogs that I could say this about. He is the first male I have had that I am still waiting to see an issue with, I'm sure it is there as all dogs have something ,but I still have not seen it, no matter where we go or what he is doing. He does not do things because we make him, he does them because he wants to please Angie and will learn to do anything she puts before him. He is a truly amazing dog and I am very lucky to have run across him in my lifetime. I actually purchased him as a young male, about 14 months old from Germany for police work. He luckily had no training at all (or they never would have sold him), came out of a family home and in two weeks we realized he was something special and decided to keep him. The luck has been in that he also produces what he is, especially with Anaconda. We have a son that will go the sport route and he same type of dog in his heart, that Chico is. They are extremely driven, yet Chico and his son live in our home and we have no problems with them. Chico is not dog aggressive in any way but no males even mess with him and we have many police K9's here all of the time. Other dogs just know what he is and never mess with him. To me, that is a truly hard dog and I will add that there are very few of them.
Larry Filo

by cledford on 02 April 2009 - 20:04

Vikram,

 

Thank you so much for the post.  That was one of the best articles I’ve ever read.  Straight from the mouth of someone with the real background to know.  That one article I feel is a blue print for EVERY GSD breeder who seeks to produce working dogs.

 

-Calvin


by gucci12 on 04 April 2009 - 00:04

steve simpkins and joe knapp
they breed and work together

by realcold on 04 April 2009 - 03:04

Its about nature and nurture. We sport people can nurture but some breeders DO look to nature and they are the guardians.  Comments welcomed.

darylehret

by darylehret on 04 April 2009 - 04:04

Nice.  That statement packs a good punch, with so few words.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 04 April 2009 - 14:04

Larry, you can PM me if you'd rather so we don't go totally off-topic, but what you said about Chico is interesting. What are the differences in him vs. Snoopy and Sid? I have been meaning to ask you about having 2 male littermates ( I assume you must like something about them to have them both!).

I'm importing a Snoopy daughter who should be here in a couple weeks.





 


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