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by ProudShepherdPoppa on 24 May 2007 - 20:05
by LMH on 24 May 2007 - 20:05
Sorry, Vom Brunhaus---I just logged on and not realizing another thread had developed concerning Max, I never saw your post till just now. I see you recommend an out-of-state attorney.
Nah.......This officer stepped way over the line. I have always bent over backwards to find the truth and be fair, but this officer behaved so foolishly that it's unconscionable to try and rationalize his actions. And, I'm not implying that's what you're really doing, seriously. You're presenting an alternative, calmer perspective. But, I am implying that the police department will undoubtedly find a way to rationalize his actions and sway public opinion. That's why they took the dog's head. Scares people.... especially people who dislike dogs to begin with....to think that this could be a rabid dog. It was overkill in trying to gain public support. I'd have more respect for them if they considered the manner in which this dog died overkill. (7 shots????)

by sueincc on 24 May 2007 - 20:05
by Orca Mom on 24 May 2007 - 21:05
It makes me sick to hear of such a horrible thing happening to anyones beloved dog.
I always try to keep my GSD's out of site of the police. I am so fearful that they may
be shot. Now I know I am right to fear. It's a hell of a society that allows a "Public
Servant' to commit such a grave injustice and just walk aways with an "Oops.'
Next they will be shooting down our children and grandchildren. That man should not
be allowed to own a gun.
by Orca Mom on 24 May 2007 - 21:05
It makes me sick to hear of such a horrible thing happening to anyones beloved dog.
I always try to keep my GSD's out of site of the police. I am so fearful that they may
be shot. Now I know I am right to fear. It's a hell of a society that allows a "Public
Servant' to commit such a grave injustice and just walk aways with an "Oops.'
Next they will be shooting down our children and grandchildren. That man should not
be allowed to own a gun.
by seriously on 24 May 2007 - 22:05
A cop with a warrant isn't a trespasser. Nice try.
Also, an arrest warrant and looking for a person on a property isn't "snooping," it's called trying to find a wanted person. If this was someone that wronged your family and you called the police and said "hey, he's over at such and such" then you'd be complaining "that lazy stupid cop just went over, knocked on the front door and left, didn't even try and find him." And as far as the "But for" this officer's actions the injury to You would not have occured" comment, how about we say "But for the fact that her family were wanted on open warrants the police would not have had to come try and arrest him and this happen." This stuff is not so black and white.
All I was saying folks was just share that it's tragic that this dog was killed. It's a bad situation. I am genuinely sorry the dog was killed, I mean that. What we don't have to do is armchair quarterback a police officer on a warrant service and make him a target and a scapegoat, and judge him on a job and situation that
a. Most of you have never, and will never, do
and b. Pass lynch mob judgement on a scenario none of us were present to witness.
That's all I'm saying.
by p59teitel on 24 May 2007 - 22:05
"Would it be more prudent for Max's owners to seek a lawyer out of the county's jurisdiction for fear that most of them could be compromised or connected with these officials?"
Some lawyers are a little too cozy with local officials, but generally you can find one who will represent you zealously. And the flip side to bringing in an "outsider" is that in some places, particularly those less populated, the out-of-county lawyer is perceived as a "trespasser" in the county courts.
"Seems to me this should/could fall under Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress."
Not likely. The majority rule in most if not all states is that animals are property, with no recovery allowed for emotional distress. There are some moves afoot to change this, but it is a bit of a "be careful what you wish for" sort of thing, as it brings pets closer to "personhood" status. And with all that implies vis-a-vis the "animal rights" bunch, it's something to think long and hard about before signing onto blindly.
by gsdlvr2 on 24 May 2007 - 22:05
by ProudShepherdPoppa on 24 May 2007 - 22:05
by seriously on 24 May 2007 - 22:05
thanks gsdlvr2, thanks for schooling me. Forgot the fact I'm a police supervisor and been in law enforcement over 10 years. I'm sure you're right.
PSP, an arrest warrant for a person at their last known address is not trespassing. Not in my state anyway. It gives you legal authority to search anywhere on that property that the person listed on the warrant could be found. Also, a warrant is a warrant. Whether for a Major Felony, or a misdemeanor.
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