A CONFORMATION TEST in GSD WORKING TRIALS - REQUIRED

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by SouthernBelle on 24 January 2009 - 17:01

AMEN BANCROFT..... YOU ARE CORRECT

by raymond on 24 January 2009 - 17:01

Remember folks it is supposed to be ALL ABOUT THE DOG. Not who produces the best belgian,dutch,german,chezk, or even texan,kentuckyian,line dog. it is the German shepherd Dog and the BREEDING STANDARDS ESTABLISHED IN THE BEGINNING BY THE FOUNDER.

by snajper69 on 24 January 2009 - 18:01

Did you guys seen that pup in bancroft video lol he was like let me out let me out I will show them what a real dog looks like lol hahahahaha nice pup bancroft thanks for sharing.

by sueincc on 24 January 2009 - 19:01

Excellent post, Bancroft. I think your post and the videos tell the real story. I love what the officer in the first video said about how his dog loves the work because he is a working dog, bred from working lines. Frankly I am fine with show line dogs being the preffered pets, and would rather working lines remain for only those that can appreciate them rather than those who would destroy them.

by missbeeb on 24 January 2009 - 20:01

There have been several wonderful working dogs imported into the UK, actually! Moritz & Lass Kammberg (sp?) (both sable) were imported about 12 years ago, I think! Arko Hunnegrab (import) had an excellent reputation for producing good workers (17-18 years ago?). Latchetts has always had decent working dogs, same with Nyrvana... they still do and there are several others. Working enthusiasts, knowledgeable, working enthusiasts have never been at the mercy of showline breeders, rich or otherwise! The police were only at the mercy insofar as they relied on gift dogs!

I have no idea what Videx or any other kennel charges for a puppy these days, but a well bred working dog never used to be much less!

Bristol & Avon police (the first video in Bancroft's post) had a dog, through me (unwanted pet) about 10 years ago, (not bred by me) that they were very pleased with... he was a show bred dog.

No doubt, the working lines are better / easier, as I've previously said... but this is part of the gap we should aspire to close, not widen... I sincerely hope that most of you (with real knowledge) do not want our breed split into, show & working.

by Videx on 24 January 2009 - 21:01

Most families cannot LIVE with hyperactive, ultra HARD, alpha dogs - then again, most working line puppies FAIL to reach a satisfactory working standard, so I wonder where they end up? I suspect several posters on here have bought some.

by sueincc on 24 January 2009 - 21:01

1. A hard dog only means a dog who is resilient, one who recovers quickly from adversity.
2. A dog with an "alpha" personality is generally a very confident dog, and not a difficult dog to handle.
3. Working line dogs SHOULD have a ton of drive, but that doesn't mean they are hectic or hyper.

As far as most working line puppies failing to reach a satisfactory working standard: How would you know and what exactly is your idea of a "satisfactory working standard" since your own dogs are not performance oriented? While it is most definitely true most dogs will never see a podium at a regional, national or international event, that hardly makes them "unsatisfactory" or washouts in the eyes of the working/sport community.

As to your childish statement regarding the type of dog you suspect several posters have, well since you have no personal knowledge of the dogs owned by these people, obviously you are only saying it out of your need to strike back, so there is no merit in your comment.

Clearly you want people to see you as some sort of authority or expert in all things GSD, but when you spout off with these ridiculous statements about working line dogs you just sound silly.

by Videx on 24 January 2009 - 21:01

sueincc: Do you think that during my years of membership of the British Schutzhund Society, and my hundreds of visits to Germany, and my attendance at numerous Ortsgruppe throughout Germany over many many years, having been very seriously involved with the GSD for over 30 year.Having Judges throughout the UK, in Ireland, The Philippines, Australia, ALL over India, at Championship Level, and helped and advised hundreds, and probably thousands of owners and breeders during that time, and enjoyed direct contact and time with some of the very best Schutzhund trainers in Germany., Do you actually think for one second that I dont know what is a satisfactory working standard, I KNOW much more than you will ever realise.

by Mystere on 24 January 2009 - 22:01

Really? What have you ever trained and titled, while involved for 30 years? Sue, STOP beating that horse. It is dead.

by funky munky on 24 January 2009 - 22:01

Read videx's last post on the other thread folks he has been playing with us all!!!!! liz

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