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by Championl on 18 May 2011 - 00:05
Just wanted to point out, since we are looking into trends of good working show lines, that all three of the WDA Universal Sieger competitors have Yello St Michaels Berg in their pedigrees. Now let's see how these competitors do!

by Dog1 on 18 May 2011 - 00:05
Good observation. I'm confident we will soon see Enzo Buchorn being one of the better producers as the dogs identified here fade out of the pedigrees with Yello being one of the better. I co own a Yello daughter.

by AandA on 18 May 2011 - 10:05
Good 'ol Enzo is also on the mothers side of Camillo.
AandA
AandA

by Dog1 on 18 May 2011 - 12:05
You'll see some good work coming from Baru too. So far I don't think Enzo and Baru will be quite the producer Vando and Quartz were. Time will tell.
by Louise M. Penery on 18 May 2011 - 20:05
Besure to look at the dam's lines, too. Above all, no matter how good a do'g's protection work may be, he must have sufficient libido to get the job done with a natural breeding. He must also come from bloodlines not pre-disposed to early death due to genetically-predisposed diseases (especially various forms of cancer).

by Dog1 on 18 May 2011 - 22:05
Ibrahim,
Cello and the dogs from Frei have the same color, yet they are not related. Can you add another color for Cello?
Going back to your earlier question. Do you think Camillo's breder knew what he was doing when he bred the litter or was it just luck? I'll answer in a few minutes.
Cello and the dogs from Frei have the same color, yet they are not related. Can you add another color for Cello?
Going back to your earlier question. Do you think Camillo's breder knew what he was doing when he bred the litter or was it just luck? I'll answer in a few minutes.
by Ibrahim on 18 May 2011 - 22:05
I did the edit, Cello and Frei have two different colors now, thank you.
Ibrahim
Ibrahim
by lonewulf on 19 May 2011 - 00:05
I saw Ikon vom Olympus work in 2006 when he earned his SchH3 title under SV Judge Vic Wilms at Upper Bucks SchH club in PA....... and it was impressive...... solid protection work and handsome powerful male to boot...
His early demise was a loss to the gene pool on the East Coast!
His early demise was a loss to the gene pool on the East Coast!

by wlpool on 19 May 2011 - 00:05
Wow, you guys ROCK!!!!!! Thanks for all of the effort and thought that went into this. It is sure to help many MANY folk out there (including me :-)
Thanks so so much!
W
Thanks so so much!
W

by Dog1 on 19 May 2011 - 01:05
Ravi,
I did his breed survey.
I was in NC the weekend he got his SchH1. The only dog to get a title that weekend. I had heard one show dog passed all the other dogs failed.
This young lady approached me in her dress with younger brothers in tow and asked in a polite way if I would do his breed survey in a few weeks. I didn't know her or her dog. I just imagined this young girl got a dog that was titled. I fugured the dog had spent the last year or so on the couch. I proceeded to tell her all the reasons it was not a good idea for someone else to survey your dog. I just imagined the dog not knowing me would fail the breed survey and I'd have to think of something appropriate to say after I just messed her dog up. I envisioned her and her brothers in tears with me feeling like crap for months later. It was a shure 'no good deed goes unpunished' situation in the making if I ever saw one.
Little did I know, this dog Ikon was about as close to Jaguar Mausespitz as I've ever handled. Ikon was usually very correct and controlled. He didn't know who I was and he sort of exploded all over the helper. I was happy he listened when I told him to out, he knew I didn't have the control his trainer did and I think he took advantage of me a little.
He was a great asset to the breed. Too bad very few recognized his power and ability. He lives on through his son Ando who's now working the street as a police K-9. Ando is still producing. In fact he was bred to a Ronaldo (Quartz Templari grandson) daughter last week. This is one of the few breedings that combine Quartz and Vando. Should be an interesting litter.
I did his breed survey.
I was in NC the weekend he got his SchH1. The only dog to get a title that weekend. I had heard one show dog passed all the other dogs failed.
This young lady approached me in her dress with younger brothers in tow and asked in a polite way if I would do his breed survey in a few weeks. I didn't know her or her dog. I just imagined this young girl got a dog that was titled. I fugured the dog had spent the last year or so on the couch. I proceeded to tell her all the reasons it was not a good idea for someone else to survey your dog. I just imagined the dog not knowing me would fail the breed survey and I'd have to think of something appropriate to say after I just messed her dog up. I envisioned her and her brothers in tears with me feeling like crap for months later. It was a shure 'no good deed goes unpunished' situation in the making if I ever saw one.
Little did I know, this dog Ikon was about as close to Jaguar Mausespitz as I've ever handled. Ikon was usually very correct and controlled. He didn't know who I was and he sort of exploded all over the helper. I was happy he listened when I told him to out, he knew I didn't have the control his trainer did and I think he took advantage of me a little.
He was a great asset to the breed. Too bad very few recognized his power and ability. He lives on through his son Ando who's now working the street as a police K-9. Ando is still producing. In fact he was bred to a Ronaldo (Quartz Templari grandson) daughter last week. This is one of the few breedings that combine Quartz and Vando. Should be an interesting litter.
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