2010 USA Sieger Show, Lake Geneva WI. - Page 24

I was wondering same thing myself that is "Ork von der Werther-Muhle" you're talking about. but he does show as being pronounced. but then didn't show.

Mystere,
Although there are many good sportsman still in this breed as a whole......there were quite a few "jaw dropping scenarios" played out at the SS....this is true & factual.
Alot of spectators & exhibitors alike (including myself)....just shook our heads in disbelief.
Every year it seems to get harder & harder, to compete in the venues (fairly & ethically) and without prejudice....
I guess..we will have to get used to working 3 times harder than some.....

I do want to mention......there are still some SUPER GREAT PEOPLE in this breed!.....I congratulate all of them!

Ork bitework was good as usual. It appears as though they opted to pull him from conformation. Not an uncommon practice.

I am more curious about the dogs being warmed up by a decoy right outside the gate. One poster already said they had to restrain their dog when the decoy actually bumped into them as they waited to enter, is there no rule on that?-

I don't mind warm ups. 

As to all the other stuff, look, if the people who are there, who see this year after year, who video or photograph it, and yet NEVER FILE COMPLAINTS, it's only going to get worse. 

There are still a lot of really good people.  But the few stinky ones always seem to stand out. 

Tess,
Please explain..."Who do you complain to?"....the people allowing these things to happen AND directly involved.....ARE the same people the complaints are forwarded to. They are the same ones who DECIDE if there was/is any misconduct.......it's like complaining to the perp about the robbery!?......
And after the complaints come rolling in, and after they are dismissed.... (we all know that they will be)... the "complaining victims"...then must be forced to deal with the wraths these "Judges & Persons of power" bestow upon them & theirs.......it becomes a vicious, never winning battle.

I'm not just referring to the Sieger Shows....I refer to ALL venues.....I speak in general.
JMO

Olga -- I enjoyed reading your post.  You have stated what I have heard from a couple of Breeders.   You appear to be able to maneuver through the "gossipy/backstabbing/cesspool" now.   Good luck.    But, then there is this Forum with the Armchair Quarterbacks who are just as bad with their judgmental attitudes, if not worse.

"Please explain..."Who do you complain to?"....the people allowing these things to happen AND directly involved.....ARE the same people the complaints are forwarded to."

I know it's discouraging, but if people make a stand, and file complaints EVERY time, in time it will be dealt with.  Like this time.  I, too, will kick in money for a filing so the filer doesn't have to be out $200.  It would only take 20 of us putting up $10, or 10 of us putting up $20.  Surely that can be done?

The other issue is you have to have the guts not to show under these judges.  Ok, now, you've seen the issues at this show.  So, why hire this judge ever?  And have the guts not to enter.  But do people?  No.  DON'T GO.  If next year the only entries are 33 Mittlewest entries, don't you think that will make a statement?

But USA and the judges know people won't do this.  They'll come, no matter what cheating and crap happens, people will come, so why should they change, right?