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I considered each dog's Sire and Dam bloodline only and reached at, based on common dogs, 3 trends.

1. A line from Odin von Tannenmeise........... Jeck vom Noricum.........  Hobby vom Gletschertopf
......... Ursus von Batu ........ to (Ghandi von Arlett, Yasko vom Farbenspiel)

2. A line from Tell vom Grossen Sand........... Frei vom Hirschel .... Amigo vom Belgier .....
to (Quartz dei Templari, Pitt von Tronje)

3. A line from Uran vom Wildsteiger Land .....  Eicho vom Kirschental ....... Yago vom Wildsteiger ..
..   Ulk von Arlett ........  Vando vom Moorbeck

Jeck von der Beldeiche does not share dogs in his pedigree with the others, most probably his work power goes back to Cello von der Romerau but I can not provide evidence of such a line through this bloodline approach.
In the beginning I tried to consider all dogs in the whole 4 generation pedigree but that was beyond my ability, it either needs a software to do it or an old breeder who knows the dogs and knows what to look for and spot them, for me most of the dogs are only names.

Ibrahim

Ibrahim,

Consider your work complete. You have done a very nice job identifying the dogs and tracing them through a few generations to the most recent dogs representing the latest common generation. We can go deeper into the dogs we see can work today.

We will list some shortly, but first; Let's talk about Jeck for a moment. He doesn't fit a pattern. Is it that he didn't come from work? Can't produce work? Maybe he's another Ulk Arlett or Amigo Belgier- the first ina series of excellent working dogs. How do we know? What is out there from him?

Randy,

The only dog which come to my mind at the moment from Jeck is Hobby.
On this board I read scepticism about Jeck producing soft ears, and himself not having good enough hips. I don't recall readin about Jeck he had extra ordinary work ability, but I read he was a great producer.

Ibrahim

I went through Jeck's progeny, two sons stand out too namely VA1 Visum von Arminius and  V2 Yasko von der Roten Matter.

Ibrahim

Wrong Jeck..............

Yes, we're looking at Jeck Bildeiche. He was vice universal sieger and placed V85. At V85 he really didn't have the girls flocking to him if you know what I mean. It's not like he was VA or anything.

Regardless,,, he's the show dog that stood in front of Dr. Helmut Reiser's bas ass working line dog at the BSP.

Here's a video of his work at the sieger show in 2000.

Schutzdienst Siegerhauptzuchtschau 2000 in Bremen
- Jeck von der Bildeiche - Vizeuniversalsieger

I guess those that bred their female to him were those breeders looking for work and show. Looks like there was only one of his sons that had a chance to impact the breed. Tiras Roten Feld. If we studied our judges opinion of the progeny groups as I'm sure we all have, then we have noticed Tiras is the only male recommended to improve the working ability.

Here are a couple links;

Schutzdienst Siegerhauptzuchtschau 2006 in Oberhausen
- Tiras vom Roten Feld - V 22

Schutzdienst Siegerhauptzuchtschau 2007 in Braunschweig
- Tiras vom Roten Feld - V19

Schutzdienst Siegerhauptzuchtschau 2008 in Aachen
- Tiras vom Roten Feld - V15

OK, so he's a decent dog. but did he really ever contribute to the breed?

History isn't over yet on this one, there are very few following the trend. Wait a minute.... Here's something popping up on the radar.

It's a female.......yes a VA rated female. Let's see what she has to offer;

Video Siegerhauptzuchtschau 2009 in Ulm - Schutzdienst
- Quana von der Biberfalle - VA 8

Not bad for a girl. A VA girl at that. Structure and working ability, wow what a combination in a showline female. This could be the only set of genetics left in the world capable of producing both work and VA structure from this line. Imagine her bred to a Quartz descendent. What could that combination produce? Beauty, working ability, the total package? Maybe so. As we can see it only takes one to get things going.

Wait there's a sister, where's the sister?