A CONFORMATION TEST in GSD WORKING TRIALS - REQUIRED - Page 20

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CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

Then I propose that all dogs entering the Sieger Show in the working class have obtained a 270 at the SchH3 level within the past year of the date of the Sieger Show. Imagine the rapid improvement in the working ability of showlines if this were implemented.

missbeeb

by missbeeb on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

Serious question(s) : I accept, as I think most would, that working ability is not at the forefront of most show breeders’ minds when they breed. It is equally true, that correct conformation is not at the forefront of working line breeders’ minds when they breed.

How can we know for certain, what the working ability of all of these show line dogs amounts to, when it’s not commonplace for anyone to try to work them? We are left, largely, to generalise surely? Little doubt perhaps, that the working lines are easier (better?) to train and most likely learn quicker, but how much of this is down to handler selection and handler ability? 

How likely is it, that a significant amount of show bred dogs could work to a similar standard as their working line cousins, with a little more time and (better handler?) effort?

Why is bitework so vital?  Why are other disciplines often made fun of by serious bitework fans?  Why do we always end up fighting, when surely we all want the best?


Videx

by Videx on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

 It doesn't take much thought to know which ONE is likely to be adopted.

by k9ulf on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

"Is my suggestion TOO difficult, and TOO impossible for the working GSD enthusiasts?"

"Can't you READ my post above yours?"

" If so, are you having difficulty understanding what is written?"

"GET IT?"

These are the questions Videx asked. Make your own conclusions!

Videx

by Videx on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

 Many on here have a Working Line dog, and have never trained or worked them, it's a "dick" thing.

by k9ulf on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

"Why do any of you take any notice of me? "

Because you might sue us for discrimination if we didnt

CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

Implement my proposal missbeeb and it will become apparent quite quicky whether it's the result of a lack of training or a deficiency in the genetics.

4pack

by 4pack on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

"Why do any of you take any notice of me?"
 
Because your like the big, fat, drunk on the corner, everyone keeps looking at, waiting for him to step off the curb, into traffic. Everyone loves a train wreck?  

I know of no one who posted here, that owns working dogs that does not work them. David, many of us are female and have no "dick" so how can it be a dick thing? Are you drinking again?


missbeeb

by missbeeb on 23 January 2009 - 20:01


Well... I thought I was asking some fairly reasonable questions.  Clearly not!

by Wildmoor on 23 January 2009 - 20:01

Animules I will answer as others dont appear to the only restriction in the UK is;
the Kennel Club will not accept an application to register a litter when:

a) The bitch has already whelped six litters, or

b) The bitch was under a year old at the date of mating, or

c) The bitch has already reached the age of eight years at the date of whelping.

N.B. Relief from the last restriction may be considered provided the dam has previously whelped at least one other registered litter, and a written application is made prior to mating and supported by veterinary evidence confirming the suitability of the bitch involved in the proposed whelping.


They recomend you health test/DNA etc but dont enforce, no restrictions on stud.






 


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