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by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 00:03
As far as breeders, guess you'd have to take that on an individual basis.
by vk4gsd on 14 March 2015 - 01:03
U saying all the legend dogs fero, mink, various bsp winners are not working dogs cos it is not life and death and they don't get paid?
A show chi stud is a working dog cos it gets a stud fee, what that work...gigolo??.
Yr definition sux, and I feel like an argument :-) :-).
by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 01:03
by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 01:03
A dog doing sport and not being paid to participate is doing sport...doesn't matter how far out his tongue hangs ....not work in the sense of being paid earning the owner's living. The owner collecting a stud fee for pimping his dog is, well, a pimp. Not work, cause the dog is doing it without having to be trained to do a bitch...you know, like when you scarf down a bratwurst, it just cums to you naturally you didn't need special training and that's not your livelihood (probably) ;-)
by vk4gsd on 14 March 2015 - 01:03
by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 02:03
by ZweiGSD on 14 March 2015 - 03:03
I was trying to gain a little insight into why some forum members look down on GSD's that are pets/in pet homes. In my opinion a large percentage of them are "just" pets and there is nothing wrong with that.

by Hundmutter on 14 March 2015 - 10:03
Not all 'therapy dogs' are "spuriously claimed" , vk.
I've come to realise it isn't so true of America, there seem to be a lot of
definitions of 'therapy' and 'service' dogs, including some that have no
formal training or regulations/ID about them, and that makes it easier
for some people to claim ordinary pet dogs as essential in order to get
them into places and onto planes etc where they would not normally be
allowed, but in the UK almost all 'dogs with jobs' wear visual ID, jackets
overprinted leashes etc and are regulated and trained. Even Pat Dogs
which are pets that visit old peoples' Homes, hospital wards etc are
usually certified first (mainly using our KC Good Citizen Scheme). I think
giving 5 minutes cuddles 'n' comfort to the sick or elderly who no longer can
have their own pets is probably more akin to competing in (non-bite) sports,
rather than "life or death" work. Not all would agree with me there.

by Hundmutter on 14 March 2015 - 10:03
To the OP - are you sure that posters are looking down on the pet GSDs ?
Or could it be looking down on their owners ?
I admit I am guilty of contempt against some owners, particularly of the GSD
and other 'working breeds', who do not consider it necessary to give their dog
anything to do except lie around on the sofa.
by vk4gsd on 14 March 2015 - 10:03
last time i looked therapy dogs were beyond the price range of about everyone.
people applied to get on long waiting lists, years long, after referals from actual doctors. the trained dogs were purchased by charities and donated.
they were the highest trained dogs you could get equal to or greater than dogs for the blind. the people that trained them were the most proffesional, serious and accomplished trainers. i blinked and now every other slob has one and every other slob trains and sells them.
if i could only lose my morals i could make big money in the dog industry.
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