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Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 29 March 2014 - 02:03

I think blanket rules are not helpful and like all rules...made to be broken. I go case by case and go by gut feeling about the person I'm considering buying from. There is an exception to every rule. 

But hell, what do I know? I actually put up a kennel in my kitchen to keep 3 week old puppies out of -50F Chicago winter temps! 

by joanro on 29 March 2014 - 03:03

Jenni, USDA would frown on kennel in kitchen....in fact they won't even let a breeder have any of their dogs in the house. Period. So tuff if it's -50 f, they could give two shits.
But when I buy a pup at full price, I want the FULL reg when I get the pup, not two years later. I don't don't need a dipshit with his first bitch telling me it's cause he's "protecting the breed". Anyway, half of breeding good dogs is knowing how to raise puppies.

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 29 March 2014 - 03:03

Agree, Joanro.  That is probably the only blanket rule I have as a buyer.  I do not buy limited registration, I do not buy strings attached.  I recommed each breeder I've bought a dog from and there is no bad blood (I don't think).  I train and title ALL my dogs.  They all get prelimed and do hip/elbow certifications (and DM, thyroid, and eyes).  I am not going to decide at 8 weeks what I will do or not do with a dog.  I leave all options open.  I also like to show my dogs, even the working lines, and don't like to be restricted from that.  If a breeder has any reason not to trust me or want me owning and exhibiting dogs of their breeding, they are welcome not to sell me a dog.  Nothing personal.  But I don't buy with any strings attached other than I am fine with a "first right of refusal" clause if for any reason I'd want to sell or rehome a dog (I will of course offer it back to the breeder first....incidentally the only dog I've ever sold I did offer to the breeder and we both agreed with my choice of the new owner).

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 29 March 2014 - 03:03

Joan, did you read Tomiko's post? I was poking at that kitchen comment. I found it funny that someone would prefer puppies further away from the breeder, in concrete runs with guillotine doors instead of inside with the breeder when they sound so picky about what they're buying.

by Tomiko on 29 March 2014 - 10:03

Hi guys, to Jenni78... When I said not in the kitchen...I meant having puppies from Birth to 8 to 15 weeks old still in the kitchen ( multiple litters), No doggy door for them to go outside and no cleaning up after them either...

I appreciate the fact that a breeder spends time with the pups! However, if puppies are moved to a better suited place than the kitchen,WITH at least a doggy door, they learn to be clean and not just be okay with sitting in their wee and poo.( most breeders do not care, and just let them use the kitchen as a toilet and kennel...Without keeping it clean...Not Cool!)

As for the Kennels/runs...I would prefer no concrete....BUT All breeders we went to go see....HAD full concrete slabs in the kennels,and it was soaked and the puppies are also soaked, sitting out there shivering and smell like Bleach/pee....

I have a question... WHY do breeders buy an Expensive VA stud with awesome hips and elbows and then put him with a female with either NO hip ratings or A2 ( and her linage has almost all A2 ), A3, Fair or good hips?   If you look at the progeny... Almost all end up with A3 or Fair hips...why would they do that? Is the purpose of a breeder Not to improve the hips??
 anyway I gotta go...

jenni78, once again...no disrespect!

by joanro on 29 March 2014 - 11:03

Tomato, USDA does not allow anything but concrete or gravel ( impossible to clean) in dog runs...NO grass or dirt allowed. Very young puppies will eliminate where it is convenient and going outa doggy door isn'teasyfor a three week old puppy to navigate.

Anyway, yes Jenni, I did see the post about the kitchen. That's why I commented on the absurdity of UDA restricktions.....they got their ideas for what is "proper" "housing" for breeding animals from somewhere :-/

by joanro on 29 March 2014 - 11:03

Haaahaaaa. This spell check didn't like Tomiko, sorry, I didn't call you "Tomato", spellcheck didit. LOL

by Paul Garrison on 29 March 2014 - 13:03

Honesty, Integrity, able to read a dog.

If you say that your puppy will be this or that stand behind what you say with your wallet. If I buy a puppy from you and it is not what was asked for, do not insist on a different puppy, offer my money back. Especially if I have spend a year or two training feeding and caring for the "perfect puppy" that did not work out. The purchase price is the cheap part. Do not sell puppies to morons. I repete do not sell puppies to morons. Have high standards for you dogs and high stardards of the people your dogs go to.
If you make claims about your dogs prove it.

by Haz on 30 March 2014 - 01:03

Work your dogs.
Know how to impartially evaluate their strengths / weaknesses
Sell me a dog with health, nerve and drive no excuses.
Back up your guarentees on health and temperment.

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 30 March 2014 - 21:03

Honestly, really know and tell me about the dogs, ask me ( the buyer) a lot of questions.  If the buyer is offended, don't sell the pup.





 


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