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by mollyandjack on 17 January 2014 - 14:01
"A lot of the best trainers /behaviorists started with training horses before they owned and trained their first dog."--susie
Yep, I've noticed the same thing.
Yep, I've noticed the same thing.
by fawndallas on 17 January 2014 - 14:01
Thank you all for your input. Please keep them coming.
by VKGSDs on 17 January 2014 - 14:01
I don't work with horses but am always amazed by those who do. It probably has to do with them learning to gain the respect and control of an animal 10 times their strength and size.
by Hundmutter on 17 January 2014 - 16:01
This is where I need the Like option, for Sunsilver's and Susie's
posts, where I agree with what they have said 100%.
I know two people practising as 'Behaviourists' that I would always
trust, one is more academically qualified than the other but they
are both also good, experienced trainers. Neither would try to put
that now fashionable argument that there is no such thing as Pack
Structure. (One has had some flack for his methods, as he is quite
high-profile).
I have also met a range of people who call themselves Canine
Behaviourists, generally with what I regard as 'micky mouse' qualifi-
cations, who fit the stereotype of the younger, over-eager, spouters
of nonsense.
I also know a few Trainers and Hydrotherapy people who do not claim
to be Behaviourists, but who nonetheless are good at spotting the causes
of problems, and suggesting (often very imaginative) methods to deal with
them / sort out the owners. These too are folk I would trust.
Guess the only way to sort the wheat from the chaff is to go by personal
recommendation, then talk your questions through with them but only
try their recommendations on your dogs if you are really satisfied. Does
not help that it is still a very unregulated 'industry' in the UK.
posts, where I agree with what they have said 100%.
I know two people practising as 'Behaviourists' that I would always
trust, one is more academically qualified than the other but they
are both also good, experienced trainers. Neither would try to put
that now fashionable argument that there is no such thing as Pack
Structure. (One has had some flack for his methods, as he is quite
high-profile).
I have also met a range of people who call themselves Canine
Behaviourists, generally with what I regard as 'micky mouse' qualifi-
cations, who fit the stereotype of the younger, over-eager, spouters
of nonsense.
I also know a few Trainers and Hydrotherapy people who do not claim
to be Behaviourists, but who nonetheless are good at spotting the causes
of problems, and suggesting (often very imaginative) methods to deal with
them / sort out the owners. These too are folk I would trust.
Guess the only way to sort the wheat from the chaff is to go by personal
recommendation, then talk your questions through with them but only
try their recommendations on your dogs if you are really satisfied. Does
not help that it is still a very unregulated 'industry' in the UK.
by bravo22 on 17 January 2014 - 17:01
@Hundmutter:
the "industry" will regulate itself- but that's simply my pov from this side of the pond- cheers!
@topic:
i think there is a lot of phoney bologna in the pet world in general and dog behaviouralists are a more contemporary form of entertainment
@Sunsilver:
agreed
the "industry" will regulate itself- but that's simply my pov from this side of the pond- cheers!
@topic:
i think there is a lot of phoney bologna in the pet world in general and dog behaviouralists are a more contemporary form of entertainment
@Sunsilver:
agreed
by Mindhunt on 17 January 2014 - 17:01
I have a good friend who earned her Masters from Purdue in their Animal Behavior Clinic and worked there as well, specializing in dogs and dog aggression. Her PhD is on dog aggression. She has trained K9s for almost 30 years in Law Enforcement (road patrol, drugs, bomb, cell phone search in prisons, etc), Therapy (seizure, diabetic, cardiac, and other areas), and SAR, as well as obedience. She used to work with many of the rescue agencies until she got fed up with the "all the dog needs is love" mindset and politics. She still works on rehabilitating dogs who have serious issues on an individual basis for some of the more realistic thinking rescues. She has taken on dogs that the "great" (use that term facetiously) Cesar Milan has turned down or advised the owners to euthanize. She is the real deal and uses positive training methods and yes it works with working dogs.
by Carlin on 17 January 2014 - 17:01
positive training methods and yes it works with working dogs.
Positive training methods do work well with working dogs, I agree. I also know some which will take a mile if they even sniff an inch.
by kitkat3478 on 17 January 2014 - 18:01
My upcoming animal behaviorist...
by Mindhunt on 17 January 2014 - 18:01
Carlin, she is no pushover and I have watched dogs try to test her unmercifully (who usually come from other trainers) and they ALL come around. She is tiny, all of 5 ft tall and wiry but her personality is a force of nature. Her K9s are pretty good sized, from good working lines, and intact, she also uses them as therapy dogs in children's wards and nursing homes. I am amazed that her dogs all work on flat collars or harnesses (and she abhors e-collars, don't get her started on the evils). She is one of those gifted people that just has a way with animals.
by Carlin on 17 January 2014 - 18:01
Mindhunt - those are the people I could just spend hours watching them do their thing.
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